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    Dear teachers,

    Please help me with the following two questions. Thank you!

    #1. It was raining when I met Jenny on the street, and she was wet. I told her (a) 'I always take an umbrella with me if it is raining'.
    (b) 'I always take an umbrella with me if it rains'.
    Which one is appropriate? Or there is a choice (c) which is the best?

    #2. I'm not sure whether it is going to rain or not this afternoon. I tell my mother (a) "I'll take an umbrella if it is raining".
    (b) "I'll take an umbrella if it rains".
    Which one is appropriate? Or there is a choice (c) which is the best?


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    I will take/always take an umbrella in case it rains.


    I will take an umbrella in case it is raining means you can't see outside world because you do not have a window.

    'I always take an umbrella with me if it rains/is raining'
    To me, 'it rains' may refer to an ongoing process, even though the verb is non-continuous.

    A: It is raining outside.
    B: If it is raining, then I will take an umbrella.
    Last edited by svartnik; 24-Oct-2009 at 11:19. Reason: added info

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    Re: if something is happening or if something happens

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Dear teachers,

    Please help me with the following two questions. Thank you!

    #1. It was raining when I met Jenny on the street, and she was wet. I told her (a) 'I always take an umbrella with me if it is raining'.
    (b) 'I always take an umbrella with me if it rains'.
    Which one is appropriate? Or there is a choice (c) which is the best?

    #2. I'm not sure whether it is going to rain or not this afternoon. I tell my mother (a) "I'll take an umbrella if it is raining".
    (b) "I'll take an umbrella if it rains".
    Which one is appropriate? Or there is a choice (c) which is the best?
    There is an option C for both.
    Many people take an umbrella if it "looks like raining" or ir "looks like it's going to raining".
    In 1a. Jenny could reply "So do I, but it wasn't raining when I left"
    1b. is wrong.
    2.a. You could do that.
    2b. is wrong
    You'd be better off taking an umbrella if it was either raining, or it looked like it was going to rain.
    People do not look out the door, decide it is going to start raining, and then leave their umbrella at home simply because it hasn't started yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    I will take/always take an umbrella in case it rains.


    I will take an umbrella in case it is raining means you can't see outside world because you do not have a window.

    'I always take an umbrella with me if it rains/is raining'

    A: It is raining outside.
    B: If it is raining, then I will take an umbrella.
    "I'll take an umbrella if it rains' means 'if it has rained then I'll take an umbrella'
    "I'll take an umbrella if it is raining" means 'I'm going to take an umbrella because it might rain. I'm not sure it's going to rain or not, but I take an umbrella with me, just in case'

    Am I right? Please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    "I'll take an umbrella if it rains' means 'if it has rained then I'll take an umbrella'
    "I'll take an umbrella if it is raining" means 'I'm going to take an umbrella because it might rain. I'm not sure it's going to rain or not, but I take an umbrella with me, just in case'

    Am I right? Please.
    To me, 'it rains' may refer to an ongoing process, even though the verb is non-continuous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    "I'll take an umbrella if it is raining" means 'I'm going to take an umbrella because it might rain.
    Not to me.

    Your specifications cover this: I will take an umbrella in case it rains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    To me, 'it rains' may refer to an ongoing process, even though the verb is non-continuous.



    Not to me.

    Your specifications cover this: I will take an umbrella in case it rains.
    'I have decided to take an umbrella, because it looks like it's going to rain'
    What should I say to express this idea? Please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    "I'll take an umbrella if it rains' means 'if it has rained then I'll take an umbrella'
    Then you'd say "If it has been raining, I'll take an umbrella"
    "If it had been raining, I would have taken an umbrella".


    "I'll take an umbrella if it is raining" means 'I'm going to take an umbrella because it might rain. I'm not sure it's going to rain or not, but I take an umbrella with me, just in case'
    No.
    It is raining means "Now, it's raining". You know that in English, we do not say "It rains" for "It is raining".
    That's why we generally don't say ""I'll take an umbrella if it rains".

    You can say:
    "I'll take an umbrella in case it rains."
    Am I right? Please.
    R.

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    Re: if something is happening or if something happens

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    'I have decided to take an umbrella, because it looks like it's going to rain'
    What should I say to express this idea? Please!
    Why not say "I have decided to take an umbrella, because it looks like it's going to rain", since that is your meaning.
    Or, "I'm taking an umbrella because it looks like rain". (a collocation).
    Or "I'm taking an umbrella in case it rains."

    There are a lot of ways you can say this, and some ways you can't.

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