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    except

    All the students, except Soha, know/ knows the answer.

    know or knows?
    should except soha be written between commas?
    All or all of?

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    Re: except

    Quote Originally Posted by sash2008 View Post
    All the students, except Soha, know/ knows the answer.

    know or knows?
    should except soha be written between commas?
    All or all of?

    All the students, except Soha, know the answer. This is correct.

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    Re: except

    Quote Originally Posted by sash2008 View Post
    All the students, except Soha, know/ knows the answer.

    know or knows?
    should except soha be written between commas?
    All or all of?

    • All of them know the answer.
    • All of them (except Soha) know the answer.
    • All of them know the answer (except Soha)
    • Soha doesn't know the answer.

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    Re: except

    Sorry, I didn't see you there.

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    In addition, 'of' is omittable: All (of) the students ... .

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    Re: except

    So, there is no any difference between
    "All" and "All of"?

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    Re: except

    Quote Originally Posted by sash2008 View Post
    So, there is no any difference between
    "All" and "All of"?
    Nope--at least not in that construct. Compare:

    All Men are created equal
    All of Men are created equal.

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    Re: except

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    Nope--at least not in that construct. Compare:

    All Men are created equal
    All of Men are created equal.
    yes, I agree that the first is correct and the second is wrong, but I don't know why and what the difference is.

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    Re: except

    Quote Originally Posted by sash2008 View Post
    yes, I agree that the first is correct and the second is wrong, but I don't know why and what the difference is.
    Because Men required a determiner here:


    • All of the men ...


    Take away 'the' and the resulting phrase is rendered ungrammatical:


    • All of Men ...


    You can omit 'of' and even 'of the', but not 'the':


    • All the men
    • All men
    • All of men <the is needed>

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    #9

    Re: except

    Many thanks
    So:
    after "of"
    I should put "the" if there is a noun.
    or I can put a pronoun only.

    ex:
    All of the men.
    All of them.

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    #10

    Re: except

    Quote Originally Posted by sash2008 View Post
    Many thanks
    So:
    after "of"
    I should put "the" if there is a noun.
    or I can put a pronoun only.

    ex:
    All of the men.
    All of them.
    I think they are acceptable .."All of them" and "All of the men"
    Last edited by anupumh; 30-Oct-2009 at 18:28.

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