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    #1

    more than an equal measure of success

    Hi,

    I'm pretty confused what exactly the below bod sentence mean.

    I read Winston Churchill until dawn. It was comforting somehow to discover a life that had endured more tragedy and rejection than my own. And it didn't escape me that by the end of his life, Churchill had met with more than an equal measure of success.

    I understand that Churchill was finally a successful man after went through all difficulties, tragedies in life. But why the author had to say "he met with more than an equal measure of success". What does equal here mean? like he experienced more measures of success than the others? Or he just wanna say that "Churchill had succeeded much more than others", that's why he was great!

    Pls help.

    Tks, Beeja

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    #2

    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    Quote Originally Posted by beeja View Post
    Hi,

    I'm pretty confused what exactly the below bod sentence mean.

    I read Winston Churchill until dawn. It was comforting somehow to discover a life that had endured more tragedy and rejection than my own. And it didn't escape me that by the end of his life, Churchill had met with more than an equal measure of success.

    I understand that Churchill was finally a successful man after went through all difficulties, tragedies in life. But why the author had to say "he met with more than an equal measure of success". What does equal here mean? like he experienced more measures of success than the others? Or he just wanna say that "Churchill had succeeded much more than others", that's why he was great!

    Pls help.

    Tks, Beeja
    It means that Churchill had more success than he (the author) did.
    tragedy and rejection(Churchill) > tragedy and rejection(Author)
    success(Churchill) > success(Author)

    Although Churchill endured more tragedy and rejection than the author, he also had more success. (More than equal to the amount of success of the author)


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    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    I do not think the author is comparing Churchill to himself here.

    "More than an equal measure of success" means Churchill had experienced success in more measure than he had tragedy and failure by the end of his life.

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    #4

    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    It may mean more than equal to his failures.

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    #5

    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    It may mean more than equal to his failures.
    Yes, that was my first thought; and it could be right.
    It's an ambiguity which might not have occurred to the author.


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    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    Korn54: stick to your guns. You are absolutely right and Raymott is wrong.
    Last edited by Excalibur; 10-Nov-2009 at 22:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
    Korn54: stick to your guns. You are absolutely right and Raymott is wrong.
    Am not.
    But I am impressed by your argument!


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    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    Am not.

    I would be more impressed with Raymott's reply if he had given a reference backing his exclusive interpretation rather than a schoolyard retort.

    IN THE GIVEN SENTENCE, the use of 'equal measure of success' refers solely to the author's evaluation of Churchill's experiences in life.

    The use that is being suggested would be stated more obviously: "He has had success in equal measure to my own efforts in the field."

    'am not': is such childishness to be anticipated as occurring with any degree of frequency in this forum, or is Raymott a 'one-off'? I been visiting for a week, and this is the second outlandish blunder he has made, followed by a blustering assertion of some infallibility when corrected.
    Last edited by Excalibur; 10-Nov-2009 at 23:36.

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    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    Quote Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
    followed by a blustering assertion of some infallibility when corrected.
    Post #5, no doubt, is an example of my infallibility.
    But thanks for telling us a bit about yourself. And you've been visiting for a whole week? My gosh! How are you settling in?
    Last edited by Raymott; 11-Nov-2009 at 17:57. Reason: Change to post #5

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    #10

    Re: more than an equal measure of success

    My first impression was that the author meant that Churchill had experienced more success that tragedy and rejection. Having read the whole thread, I will stick with that.

    (A little playful banter certainly is allowed. What's wrong with a little humor?)





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