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    Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    Hello,
    This sentence should be fully okay:
    I have been having my new car for 2 days.
    Wrong would be:
    I have my new car for 2 days.
    It would cause unclarity.
    (Some people could think I will not have it after 2 days anymore.)

    However, what if you use since?
    I have been having my new car since Friday.
    Wouldn't be this right as well?:
    I have my new car since Friday.
    This could not cause unclarity in my opinion.

    Cheers!

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    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello,
    This sentence should be fully okay:
    I have been having my new car for 2 days. This is wrong.
    Wrong would be:
    I have my new car for 2 days. This is ok.
    It would cause unclarity.
    (Some people could think I will not have it after 2 days anymore.)

    However, what if you use since?
    I have been having my new car since Friday. This is wrong.
    Wouldn't be this right as well?:
    I have my new car since Friday. This is ok.
    This could not cause unclarity in my opinion.

    Cheers!
    In both cases "I have had..." is better.

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    #3

    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    Although your answer disappoints me a bit, I thank you anyway

    But where is the difference between
    I've been driving the car for 2 days and
    I've been having the car for 2 days
    ?
    Would it grammatically mean that I only drive (in the 1st sentence) in this time?
    (No meal, no sleep etc.)

    Do you think that generally "I have been having..." is not ok?

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    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    bhaisahab:I have my new car for 2 days. This is ok.

    I have my new car since Friday. This is ok.

    No. No.

    Nightmare: Do you think that generally "I have been having..." is not ok?


    Definitely not OK.

    I have had/I've had my new car for 2 days.

    I have been having my new car since Friday.
    You either have/own something or you don't - there is no Continuous form of having =owning.

    I have had/I've had my new car since Friday.


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    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    I cannot reconcile a stative verb with the progressive aspect: Do not use "have been having", but use "have been driving" (driving = active).

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    #6

    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    That means all those sentences would be grammatically wrong?:

    My computer works always perfectly, but now I'm having a problem.
    I was having a bath while/when you called me.
    I hope I will be having a lot of fun at the party tonight.


    If I type "I was having" in google, I find thousands of entries.
    However, this does not automatically mean that it's right...

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    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    That means all those sentences would be grammatically wrong?:

    My computer works always perfectly, but now I have a problem.
    I was having a bath when you called me.
    I hope I will have a lot of fun at the party tonight.


    Cheers!
    The progressive aspect is generally used to express a continuous action (activity).

    The present perfect progressive is always used to express an activity that started in the past and continues to the present moment. It can never be used to describe a situation that is with verbs like be, have, spend,...etc

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    #8

    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    The key is in Excalibur's post when he refers to the "owning" definition of having.

    You can have a good time. I'm having a good time.
    You can have a bath. I was having a bath when the phone rang.
    You can have a car, But not "I was having a car" -- that's the "to own" meaning of "to have" and THAT is the one that doesn't work in progressive.
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    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    The key is in Excalibur's post when he refers to the "owning" definition of having.
    I'm sorry, but I ignore all of his posts...

    Okay I hope I have understood it now.
    So just to be sure:
    If I would say: "I have been driving my new car for 2 days", would this mean that I drive all the time?
    (Non-stop).
    And would "I have driven my new car for 2 days." mean that the beginning was 2 days ago and I still drive until now, but not all the time?
    (Occasionally)

    Thank you.

    Cheers!

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    #10

    Re: Since: Present Perfect Progressive always required?

    No, the progressive doesn't mean you've done that, and nothing but that, without a break or interruption.

    He's been voting for the Democratic Party since 1988. Obviously, there are other things he's been doing in those years.

    I've been driving Mazdas since I first got my license.

    Compare to: You've been playing on that X-Box for six straight hours. Turn that thing off and do your homework.
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