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    now that

    Dear teachers,

    I have four questions:

    No.1
    I think as a rule "now that " should be used the following way:

    a. Now that you are back....
    b. Now that you have returned

    However, I came across a sentence:

    Now that he thought of it....
    Shouldn't it be "Now that he had thought of it...."?

    No.2
    You thought you'd fool me, did you?

    Shouldn't it be "didn't you"?

    No.3
    Could you please explain the difference between "laugh to oneself " and "chuckle to somebody"?
    Both produce sound but "laugh to" is louder? Is that right?

    No.4
    Both from 1980s and from the 1980s are correct just as in the 1980s and in 1980s are. Is that right?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
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    Re: now that

    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
    Dear teachers,

    I think as a rule "now that " should be used the following way:

    a. Now that you are back....
    b. Now that you have returned

    However, I came across a sentence:

    Now that he thought of it....
    Shouldn't it be "Now that he had thought of it...."?
    Why do you want to add "had" there?

    Jiang
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    Re: now that

    Hi,
    I added it to indicate after he had done something he was going to do something else.
    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
    Have a nice weekend!
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    Re: now that

    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
    Hi,
    I added it to indicate after he had done something he was going to do something else.
    But that doesn't require "had". 'has' would be okay, but it is not needed; the 'sentence' is fine as it is.

    And speaking of sentences, when you are asking about a sentence write the whole sentence, not just the part you want to ask about.
    You're welcome and have a nice weekend too.

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    Re: now that

    No.1
    I think as a rule "now that " should be used the following way:

    a. Now that you are back....
    b. Now that you have returned

    However, I came across a sentence:

    Now that he thought of it....
    Shouldn't it be "Now that he had thought of it...."?


    Not necessarily. Although perfective forms tend to occur commonly after 'now that', there is no absolute rule to this effect.

    No.2
    You thought you'd fool me, did you?

    Shouldn't it be "didn't you"?


    Not necessarily. A positive statement can be followed by either a positive or a negative tag.

    No.3
    Could you please explain the difference between "laugh to oneself " and "chuckle to somebody"?
    Both produce sound but "laugh to" is louder? Is that right?


    You cannot laugh/chuckle to anybody but yourself. *Chuckle to smb. is meaningless.

    No.4
    Both from 1980s and from the 1980s are correct just as in the 1980s and in 1980s are. Is that right?


    The article is always required; thus the underlined expressions above are ungrammatical.

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    Re: now that

    Hi,
    Thank you very much for your advice. Next time I shall write the whole sentence.

    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
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    Re: now that

    Hi,
    Thank you very much for your explanation.
    Could you please kindly explain if "laugh to oneself' the same with “chuckle to oneself”?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    No.1
    I think as a rule "now that " should be used the following way:

    a. Now that you are back....
    b. Now that you have returned

    However, I came across a sentence:

    Now that he thought of it....
    Shouldn't it be "Now that he had thought of it...."?

    Not necessarily. Although perfective forms tend to occur commonly after 'now that', there is no absolute rule to this effect.

    No.2
    You thought you'd fool me, did you?

    Shouldn't it be "didn't you"?

    Not necessarily. A positive statement can be followed by either a positive or a negative tag.

    No.3
    Could you please explain the difference between "laugh to oneself " and "chuckle to somebody"?
    Both produce sound but "laugh to" is louder? Is that right?

    You cannot laugh/chuckle to anybody but yourself. *Chuckle to smb. is meaningless.

    No.4
    Both from 1980s and from the 1980s are correct just as in the 1980s and in 1980s are. Is that right?

    The article is always required; thus the underlined expressions above are ungrammatical.

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    Re: now that

    'Laugh to oneself' is not particularly idiomatic. Use 'chuckle' with this reflexive sense.

    Semantically, a 'chuckle' is a quiet, restrained laugh.

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