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    "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Which one is correct and please explain why?

    1) "If I was you I would... or "If I were you I would..."

    Sometimes, I noticed people put an apostrophe "d" after "I"
    is that short for "I would" or "I had"? If that's the case, don't you think that people can become confused about had and would?


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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    Which one is correct and please explain why?

    1) "If I was you I would... or "If I were you I would..."

    Sometimes, I noticed people put an apostrophe "d" after "I"
    is that short for "I would" or "I had"? If that's the case, don't you think that people can become confused about had and would?
    the second is, without doubt, correct and is often used in colloquial speech and in writing.
    the first is also correct but isn't used that often

    as for the "'d": it's used as an abbreviation for "would" or "had" and I don't think it's something that causes confusion.
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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    Which one is correct and please explain why?

    1) "If I was you I would... or "If I were you I would..."

    Sometimes, I noticed people put an apostrophe "d" after "I"
    is that short for "I would" or "I had"? If that's the case, don't you think that people can become confused about had and would?
    (NOT a teacher) (1) If I were you, I would not do that = perfect English. Try to use this in your speech and writing. (2) If I was you, ... = OK in speech. Used by many native speakers and some native writers in the United States.

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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    Which one is correct and please explain why?

    1) "If I was you I would... or "If I were you I would..."

    Sometimes, I noticed people put an apostrophe "d" after "I"
    is that short for "I would" or "I had"? If that's the case, don't you think that people can become confused about had and would?
    Both can be correct, depending on the situation, the first one is in the indicative while the second one is in the subjunctive case. However, in the vast majority of situations you will find that the correct one is the second, that is, subjunctive:
    "If I were you I would study a new English grammar point every morning."
    Indeed there are some ESL books which simply state that one should always use "were" in such situations, as in:
    "if I were ... " - "if you were ... " - "if he were ... " - "if she were ... " - "if it were ... " - "if we were ... " - "if they were ... "
    This is a didatic simplification with which I agree.

    It is important to point out that sometimes in colloquial everyday English the wrong form "if I was ... " is mistakenly used.

    Regarding your second question the abbreviation " 'd " can stand for "would" or "had" depending on the situation. See the following examples:
    "She'd studied a lot before posting it." = "She had studied a lot ... "
    "She'd study a lot before posting." = "She would study a lot ..."
    In the examples above, one can easily decide which auxiliary is being used because of the inflection of the verb right after it.
    Finally a native speaker does not stop to think about which verb comes after, he or she simply gets it in a automatic way. Keep studying and soon that will happen to you too.

    PS Not a native speaker

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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    Which one is correct and please explain why?

    1) "If I was you I would... or "If I were you I would..."

    Sometimes, I noticed people put an apostrophe "d" after "I"
    is that short for "I would" or "I had"? If that's the case, don't you think that people can become confused about had and would?
    "I'd" is short for both "I would" and "I had". Yes, this is confusing for leaners,you have to decide from the context which is intended. I rarely use this contraction, partly for that reason.


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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Do you know why I was confused?

    I was taught the following:

    "I" = "am", "was"

    "They" = "were".


    "If I [were] you, I would..." although commonly used, but it seemed to contradict the grammar rules.

    ANOTHER QUESTION:

    If I were you, I [will] not attend tonight's party."

    Can I use "will" or do I have to use "would"?

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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    Do you know why I was confused?

    I was taught the following:

    "I" = "am", "was"

    "They" = "were".


    "If I [were] you, I would..." although commonly used, but it seemed to contradict the grammar rules.

    ANOTHER QUESTION:

    If I were you, I [will] not attend tonight's party."

    Can I use "will" or do I have to use "would"?
    "If I were you, I would..." is correct, this is the subjunctive use of the verb "to be" in an unreal situation. I am not you, I never could be you.
    No, you cannot replace "would" with "will". Do you understand now?


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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    Do you know why I was confused?

    I was taught the following:

    "I" = "am", "was"

    "They" = "were".


    "If I [were] you, I would..." although commonly used, but it seemed to contradict the grammar rules.

    ANOTHER QUESTION:

    If I were you, I [will] not attend tonight's party."

    Can I use "will" or do I have to use "would"?
    second conditional: past simple in the main clause----> would/should/might in the sub clause

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    Re: "If I were you I would..." or "If I was you I would..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    Do you know why I was confused?

    I was taught the following:

    "I" = "am", "was"

    "They" = "were".
    Yes, I know exactly why you were confused. I have passed through the same situation. Once as a teacher, unfortunatelly I answered wrongly a simple question about it, I mean even as a teacher I wasn't aware of these subleties. I had the opportunity to correct my mistake with my student, but I still deeply regret that situation.

    Usually ESL books teach only the indicative modus:
    I, he, she, it --> was (indicative)
    you, we, you, they --> were (indicative)
    and when comes to the structure "If I were ... " they simply state this is an exception, with "if" always use "were". This is a kind of simplified approach, with didatic purposes, with wich I agree, depending on the level of the class.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy08 View Post
    "If I [were] you, I would..." although commonly used, but it seemed to contradict the grammar rules.
    Yes, this "seems" to contradict the grammar rules, but it does not.

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