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    #1

    Still vs. anyway

    Hello,
    I have the feeling some humans confuse these two words.
    To be honest, I used still all the time by myself, too.
    However, I think these two words have to be used in different ways.

    Example:
    You teach someone how to play chess.
    After a while you play against him and beat him.
    You say:
    "You still can't play chess."
    In my opinion a correct sentence.

    Example 2:
    You play against an unknown enemy and you lose because of a small mistake.
    So let's say he won by luck.
    You say:
    "You can't play chess anyway."
    In my opinion it would be wrong to use still in this sentence.

    Today a player wrote this (quote):
    "wow teams are total crap and we still won.."
    (Let's ignore his bad grammar but let's focus on the still.)
    I believe anyway would be more suitable for this sentence.

    What do you think about this (not only the last sentence but the whole topic)?

    Thank you!

    Cheers!

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    #2

    Re: Still vs. anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello,
    I have the feeling some humans confuse these two words.
    To be honest, I used still all the time by myself, too.
    However, I think these two words have to be used in different ways.

    Example:
    You teach someone how to play chess.
    After a while you play against him and beat him.
    You say:
    "You still can't play chess." This is correct. You can't use "anyway" in this sentence, it would have a different meaning.
    In my opinion a correct sentence.

    Example 2:
    You play against an unknown enemy and you lose because of a small mistake.
    So let's say he won by luck.
    You say:
    "You can't play chess anyway."
    In my opinion it would be wrong to use still in this sentence. You are right, you can't use "still" in this sentence. (as it is it's a very unpleasant way to talk to someone)

    Today a player wrote this (quote):
    "wow teams are total crap and we still won.."
    (Let's ignore his bad grammar but let's focus on the still.)
    I believe anyway would be more suitable for this sentence.
    You could write it "...we won anyway" but "...we still won" is ok too.
    What do you think about this (not only the last sentence but the whole topic)?

    Thank you!

    Cheers!
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    #3

    Re: Still vs. anyway

    Thank you, bhaisahab!

    What about this example?
    Let's say you get a car (gift).
    However, it's not really your dream car.
    You seem disappointed, and the other person says:
    "Hey, be glad that you finally got a car."
    "Still better than nothing!"
    - not very sure about the still

    "Better than nothing anyway!"
    This seems better to me, what do you think?

    Cheers!

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    #4

    Re: Still vs. anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Thank you, bhaisahab!

    What about this example?
    Let's say you get a car (gift).
    However, it's not really your dream car.
    You seem disappointed, and the other person says:
    "Hey, be glad that you finally got a car."
    "Still, better than nothing!"
    - not very sure about the still

    "Better than nothing anyway!"
    This seems better to me, what do you think?

    Cheers!
    Both are ok, with the comma after "still".

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    #5

    Re: Still vs. anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Example 2:
    You play against an unknown enemy and you lose because of a small mistake.
    So let's say he won by luck.
    You say:
    "You can't play chess anyway."
    In my opinion it would be wrong to use still in this sentence.
    If I understand the context well, you would never say "You can't play chess anyway" here. Although you made a small mistake, your opponent won. So he can play chess. I think you could say:
    1) "You were lucky this time, still I guess your chess is not that good; let us play another one?"
    2) "You were lucky this time, yet I guess your chess is not that good; let us play another one?"
    3) "Hmm, I think I lost this game. Anyway, you only won because I made a small mistake."
    4) "Hmm, I think I lost this game. You only won because I made a small mistake anyway."

    The expression "You can't play chess anyway" has a slightly different context. You could use it as:
    A: "Today I am in a mood to play chess."
    B: "I am here!"
    A: "What does it matter? You can't play chess anyway."
    Or "John is here!" - "What does it matter? He can't play chess anyway," not to be so rude.

    Furthermore, I think the expressions "You still can't play chess" and "Still you can't play chess" have different meanings.

    By the way, it is better to call that lucky player your opponent rather than your enemy.

    Not a native speaker

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