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    Just another small "was vs. have been" question

    Hey guys,
    To be honest I still have problems with this topic.
    (But not as many problems as before, I guess...)

    I always ask myself when a match ends.
    Let's say you play soccer and lose.
    As soon as the match ends, you say:
    "Damn, we have been defeated."

    The problem is that the match has already ended.
    That means I could imagine that:
    "Damn, we were defeated."
    would be the right sentence.

    Now let's say the match has not ended, just the 1st half.
    You say:
    "Damn, we have been defeated so far, let's hope we'll strike back in the next half."
    Now I'm confused because you cannot be defeated when a match has not ended.

    Help me out, please

    Cheers!

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    Exclamation Re: Just another small "was vs. have been" question

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hey guys,
    To be honest I still have problems with this topic.
    (But not as many problems as before, I guess...)
    I always ask myself when a match ends.
    Let's say you play soccer and lose.
    As soon as the match ends, you say:
    "Damn, we have been defeated." (It is in passive voice and present perfect tense)

    The problem is that the match has already ended.
    That means I could imagine that:
    "Damn, we were defeated." (It is in passive and simple past tense.)
    would be the right sentence.

    Now let's say the match has not ended, just the 1st half.
    You say:
    "Damn, we have been defeated so far, let's hope we'll strike back in the next half."
    Now I'm confused because you cannot be defeated when a match has not ended.
    You have used the passive form in present perfect, when the match is not completed but is in progress. So you should use the passive form in present progressive:
    We are being defeated so far.


    Help me out, please

    Cheers!
    After completion of the match you have the choice to use either present perfect or simple past.

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