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which is correct?

1. i took/had my training last Feb 2007.

2. i took/had the workshop(flight attendant workshop) last Feb. 2007.

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which is correct?

1. i took/had my training last Feb 2007.

2. i took/had the workshop(flight attendant workshop) last Feb. 2007.

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It is better to say:

undergo training
attend/take a course

I last underwent training in Feb 2007.
I last attended a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007.

You don't say 'last Feb 2007' because there is only one 'Feb 2007'.

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It is better to say:

undergo training
attend/take a course

I last underwent training in Feb 2007.
I last attended a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007.

You don't say 'last Feb 2007' because there is only one 'Feb 2007'.

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You can use ‘take’ which means the same as ‘undergo’ with reference to ‘training’, as:
I took a similar training at another institution.
Why do I have to take this training?

Workshop is a type of seminar, discussion group, or the like, that emphasizes exchange of ideas and the demonstration and application of techniques, skills, etc where you have to take an active part. So the more appropriate verb for taking part in a workshop is ‘to participate’

I had last participated in a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007. (Use past perfect for better clarity)
 

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In British English, we would generally not use 'a' with training alone and would say something like 'I did my training' or 'I took a training course'.
 

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I had last participated in a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007.

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Why past perfect? Shouldn't the sentence be in the simple past tense when the time is stated?
 

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thanks to all who replied.:) I really appreciate it.
 

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Perhaps its a British colloquialism, or perhaps even more local than that, but the verb 'take' can be used with 'workshop' or something similar - class, seminar etc - to mean 'lead', that is, be the person who 'teaches' the material. So:

'I took a training course last February' to me could mean either you led it, or you participated in it. For this reason, I'd use one of the more specific verbs as other have suggested - attend, undertake, do etc.
 

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I had last participated in a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007.

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Why past perfect? Shouldn't the sentence be in the simple past tense when the time is stated?

Yes, you can use both. It is a matter of choice.
 

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I had last participated in a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007. (Use past perfect for better clarity)

The past perfect tense is used to express 'action in the past before another action in the past.' How could it be used in the context?

The sentence would mean the person participated in the workshop before Feb 2007 which is not what writer means to say.
 

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The past perfect tense is used to express 'action in the past before another action in the past.' How could it be used in the context?

The sentence would mean the person participated in the workshop before Feb 2007 which is not what writer means to say.

You can use past perfect for expressing an action or event occurred in the distant past.

Here ‘last’ (=latest)is used as adverb to modify the verb ‘participated ‘, which means the participation in Feb’07 was the latest.. It can not mean before Feb.07 without use of the preposition ‘before’.
 

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You can use past perfect for expressing an action or event occurred in the distant past
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No, how far back or how distant the pass is not the consideration.

I do not think the past perfect is correctly used here. Why use the past perfect when you can use the past tense?
Do you mean 'the past' in the past tense is not as distant as the past perfect tense?
I'd like to hear comments from other teachers.
 
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Can I have a second opinion on whether the sentence is correct? Thanks.

I had last participated in a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007. (Use past perfect for better clarity)
 

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Can I have a second opinion on whether the sentence is correct? Thanks.
No, it isn't "I last participated..." is correct in that sentence.
 

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As an isolated sentence it is correct.

But consider.
In April 2009, I did a flight training course. I had last participated in a flight attendant workshop in Feb 2007, so I felt I needed a catch-up course.

The simple past would obviously be wrong in this context. It's not a case of being able to use either tense. As always, it is a case of using the correct tense for the intended meaning.
 

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Thanks bhaisahab & Raymott.

That's what I thought, the past perfect tense is used to 'relate an earlier past event to a past event'. In this case, only one past event was stated.

Another question about a previous post:

You can use ‘take’ which means the same as ‘undergo’ with reference to ‘training’, as:
I took a similar training at another institution.
Why do I have to take this training?

You take a course. Can you say you 'take a training'?
 

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Thanks bhaisahab & Raymott.

That's what I thought, the past perfect tense is used to 'relate an earlier past event to a past event'. In this case, only one past event was stated.

Another question about a previous post:



You take a course. Can you say you 'take a training'?
No, you can "take a training course".
 
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