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    #1

    change into passive

    I saw myself in the mirror.:
    - He is a doctor.


    - We sleep in our beds.


    change into passive,please

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    #2

    Re: change into passive

    You can't change the last two into the passive voice. Do you know why?
    The first one would look like this:
    I was seen in the mirror by myself. It's correct in a perverted sense. No one would ever say that.

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    #3

    Re: change into passive

    thanks

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    Re: change into passive

    Quote Originally Posted by mmasny View Post
    You can't change the last two into the passive voice. Do you know why?
    Our beds are slept in by us.
    Why?

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    Re: change into passive

    Quote Originally Posted by mmasny View Post
    You can't change the last two into the passive voice. Do you know why?
    I guess you were thinking passivization is a leftward movement in which the (in)direct object is topicalised. You are correct, IMO. What Ray provided is not the passivized form of the original sentence, but a passive construction where the same referents assume the corresponding theta roles.

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    Re: change into passive

    If what I say holds water, the question rightfully arises: What is the active equivalent of Ray's sentence.
    Passivization means the patient (not necessarily the (in)direct object), the undergoer of the action, becomes the subject. It is 'our bed' in the sentence. --> What I originally said does not hold water.

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    Re: change into passive

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Our beds are slept in by us.
    Why?
    Thanks.
    so one of them will be '
    Our beds are slept in by us."

    what about the others?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nado92 View Post
    Thanks.
    so one of them will be '
    Our beds are slept in by us."

    what about the others?

    As mmasny has said the first one would be "I was seen in the mirror by myself" but no one would ever say that. The second is impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    I guess you were thinking passivization is a leftward movement in which the (in)direct object is topicalised.
    Yes, I thought so.
    You are correct, IMO. What Ray provided is not the passivized form of the original sentence, but a passive construction where the same referents assume the corresponding theta roles.
    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    If what I say holds water, the question rightfully arises: What is the active equivalent of Ray's sentence.
    I think it's (We) (sleep in) (our beds). I don't know if it's a correct sentence even (to talk about it we have to accept the "fact" that sentences are not unambiguously given be their form). Normally, it's (We) (sleep) (in our beds).
    Passivization means the patient (not necessarily the (in)direct object), the undergoer of the action, becomes the subject. It is 'our bed' in the sentence. --> What I originally said does not hold water.
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    Re: change into passive

    Quote Originally Posted by nado92 View Post
    - He is a doctor.

    A doctor is being been by him.

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