try or trial

[Nightmare85]

Hello,
What would you use in these sentences?
(In all sentences these words are nouns.)

I needed 4 tries/trials until I finally passed the test.
In 1 of 5 tries/trials it should be possible to reach this position.
Please give me some more tries/trials!
A try/trial is only a try/trial if you give your best.

In my opinion it should be try/tries (not trial/trials) in all sentences.
However, I don't know why. :?:

Cheers!

 

[bhaisahab]

Hello,
What would you use in these sentences?
(In all sentences these words are nouns.)

I needed 4 tries/trials until I finally passed the test.
In 1 of 5 tries/trials it should be possible to reach this position.
Please give me some more tries/trials!
A try/trial is only a try/trial if you give your best.

In my opinion it should be try/tries (not trial/trials) in all sentences.
However, I don't know why. :?:

Cheers!

They are not very natural sentences.
In the first one "tries" would be the right word to use, but there are more natural ways to say it, for example:
"I had to take/took the test 4 times before I finally passed". Either "had to take" or "took" would be fine.

In the second it's not at all clear what you are trying to say.

In the third, "trials" would also be correct, but once again it's not very natural, better would be: "Please give me another try".

The meaning of the third is not at all clear.

 

[Nightmare85]

Hello bhaisahab,
Thank you for your answer.

I do agree that these examples aren't the best.
(It's difficult for me to create good examples.)

The second means:
Probably you will fail 4 times in a row, but you should be able to manage it in your 5th try.
That's why I used 1 of 5 times.

The fourth sentence, well, let's ignore it

Cheers!

 

[bhaisahab]

Hello bhaisahab,
Thank you for your answer.

I do agree that these examples aren't the best.
(It's difficult for me to create good examples.)

The second means:
Probably you will fail 4 times in a row, but you should be able to manage it in your 5th try.
That's why I used 1 of 5 times.

The fourth sentence, well, let's ignore it

Cheers!

Try "You should manage it at your 5th attempt". But why will he/she fail four times in a row?

 

[Nightmare85]

Thanks.
Let's say it (on:? another way:
The chance that you mange it is 20%, that would be 1 of 5
(Because your opponent is very strong.)

Cheers!

 

[bhaisahab]

Thanks.
Let's say it (on:? another way:
The chance that you mange it is 20%, that would be 1 of 5
(Because your opponent is very strong.)

Cheers!

OK "You have a one-in-five chance of winning".