[Grammar] is who will take the risk

[uktous]

Hi,

Background:
Kid investment plan A: Mother needs to pay extra money if the investment account balance drops below $100.

Kid investment plan B: Father needs to pay extra money if the investment account balance drops below $100.


Question:
Can I use "is who will take the risk"?


Sentence:
The difference between 2 plans is who will take the risk of paying extra money.


Thanks

 

[mmasny]

I think you can say that. Also:
The difference between 2 plans is who takes the risk of paying extra money.

I am not a teacher.

 

[Raymott]

Hi,

Background:
Kid investment plan A: Mother needs to pay extra money if the investment account balance drops below $100.

Kid investment plan B: Father needs to pay extra money if the investment account balance drops below $100.


Question:
Can I use "is who will take the risk"?
Yes.

Sentence:
The difference between the two plans is who will take the risk of paying the extra money.
Yes, that's OK

Thanks

R

 

[mmasny]

Is 'the' before 'extra money' obligatory?

 

[corum]

Is 'the' before 'extra money' obligatory?

No. To tell you the truth, I do not feel the need for 'the'. The reference of "extra money" has not been specified in the preceding context so I think it correct to leave the reference unaccounted for.

 

[mmasny]

No. To tell you the truth, I do not feel the need for 'the'. The reference of "extra money" has not been specified in the preceding context so I think it correct to leave the reference unaccounted for.

I'm not sure you're right. I agree with Raymott that this 'the' can and probably should be there. But I think it's still OK without it (maybe sounds a little bit awkward).
PS: And thanks for telling me the truth ;-)

 

[Raymott]

I'm not sure you're right. I agree with Raymott that this 'the' can and probably should be there. But I think it's still OK without it (maybe sounds a little bit awkward).
PS: And thanks for telling me the truth ;-)

Well, the extra money has been referred to, because we know that either the mother or the father will it. Will pay what?

 

[corum]

PS: And thanks for telling me the truth ;-)

Thanks for your wry sarcasm. ;-)

 

[corum]

Well, the extra money has been referred to,

Referred to as what?

Father needs to pay extra money if the investment account balance drops below $100.

$100 has nothing to do with extra money.

 

[mmasny]

Referred to as what?

It was referred to as extra money.

 

[corum]

It was referred to as extra money.

so no 'the' needed. Thanks, masny.

 

[Barb_D]

The "the" is far better.

The money = the money needed to bring the account up to $100 again.

It's a specific reference to the specific amount of money referred to earlier.

(Unless the parents are divorced, it's hard to imagine such plans!)

 

[corum]

The "the" is far better.

The money = the money needed to bring the account up to $100 again.
.

Mother needs to pay extra money if the investment account balance drops below $100.

In the quoted part, extra money does not mean the money that is needed to bring the balance back to $100.

 

[Barb_D]

What other meaning could it possibly have?

And even if it didn't, "the extra money" has already been defined as "the extra money that X would need to pay if the balance dropped below $100"

 

[Raymott]

Mother needs to pay extra money if the investment account balance drops below $100.

In the quoted part, extra money does not mean the money that is needed to bring the balance back to $100.

That quote you've given can't exist. If it did, you'd have to acknowledge that 'money' has been referred to, and that the last line of the original post refers back to it, and should therefore be "the money."
QED.

 

[corum]

What other meaning could it possibly have?

an undefined amount of penalty cost? Undefined because of peripheral concern?

And even if it didn't, "the extra money" has already been defined as "the extra money that X would need to pay if the balance dropped below $100"

There is no "the extra money" in the OP's post. There is "extra money" there. Extra money in the OP's quote means simply the fact that you have to pay something, an undefined amount of money.

That is how I see this matter, and I would not like our disagreement to develop into something not very nice. I hope you guys allow me not to play the servile and obsequious yes man who takes natives' opinion as the gospel truth in all circumstances. I think this attitude of mine has brought me to this level from zero level, learning English on my tod, in 7 years.

 

[Barb_D]

Okay, use articles as you wish.

I'm not going to try convince you.