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    was effective / took effect

    His Majesty the King has signed a royal order appointing the late Pol Col Sompien Eksomya, 59 to the rank of Pol Gen (Police General). This royal order took effect on 12 March 10.
    Could you tell me whether the expression 'took effect' is correct? Because I usually have used or heard the expression ' was effective' which has the meaning in this sense long time ago.
    Thank you for your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phorntita View Post
    His Majesty the King has signed a royal order appointing the late Pol Col Sompien Eksomya, 59 to the rank of Pol Gen (Police General). This royal order took effect on 12 March 10.
    Could you tell me whether the expression 'took effect' is correct? Because I usually have used or heard the expression ' was effective' which has the meaning in this sense long time ago.
    Thank you for your time.

    Phorntita
    Both terms mean the same. took effect=became effective/was effective=went into operation

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    Re: was effective / took effect

    Quote Originally Posted by phorntita View Post
    His Majesty the King has signed a royal order appointing the late Pol Col Sompien Eksomya, 59 to the rank of Pol Gen (Police General). This royal order took effect on 12 March 10.
    Could you tell me whether the expression 'took effect' is correct? Because I usually have used or heard the expression ' was effective' which has the meaning in this sense long time ago.
    Thank you for your time.

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    take effect = to begin to work, to come into force
    For example;
    When will the drug take effect?

    effective (adjective) =
    1. having power to produce, or producing, a desired result
    For example;
    These new teaching methods have proved very effective.

    2. striking or pleasing
    For example;
    She can make an effective display of flowers.

    3. in operation; working; active
    For example;
    The new law becomes effective next week.

    In my opinion, 'took effect' doesn't mean 'was effective' here, but it does 'become effective'.

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    Exclamation Re: was effective / took effect

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    take effect = to begin to work, to come into force
    For example;
    When will the drug take effect?

    effective (adjective) =
    1. having power to produce, or producing, a desired result
    For example;
    These new teaching methods have proved very effective.

    2. striking or pleasing
    For example;
    She can make an effective display of flowers.

    3. in operation; working; active
    For example;
    The new law becomes effective next week.

    In my opinion, 'took effect' doesn't mean 'was effective' here, but it does 'become effective'.
    Please see the defination and use: take effect: Information from Answers.com

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    Re: was effective / took effect

    Quote Originally Posted by sarat_106 View Post
    Please see the defination and use: take effect: Information from Answers.com
    go into effect or become effective or operative; "The new law will take effect next month"
    This is from the webpage you refer to.

    Therefore, in my post, which part is wrong?
    Please explain it to me.

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    go into effect or become effective or operative; "The new law will take effect next month"
    This is from the webpage you refer to.

    Therefore, in my post, which part is wrong?
    Please explain it to me.
    It simply means: The new law will take effect next month=The new law will be effective next month= The new law will be operative next month.

    There is no difference between:to take effect and be effective/be oprative
    Effective means: operative; active. If a law, agreement, or an order becomes effective, it officially starts
    The cut in interest rates is effective from Monday
    Last edited by sarat_106; 24-Mar-2010 at 08:21.

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    Re: was effective / took effect

    In my opinion, 'took effect' doesn't mean 'was effective' here, but it does 'become effective'.[/QUOTE]

    Thank you very much Whitemoon.
    Phorntita

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    Re: was effective / took effect

    Quote Originally Posted by sarat_106 View Post
    It simply means: The new law will take effect next month=The new law will be effective next month= The new law will be operative next month.

    There is no difference between:to take effect and be effective/be oprative
    Effective means: operative; active. If a law, agreement, or an order becomes effective, it officially starts
    The cut in interest rates is effective from Monday
    effective - Definition of effective at YourDictionary.com
    effective (adj) = in effect, operative, active
    take effect - definition of take effect by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    take effect (idiom) = to become operative, as under law or regulation, and to produce the desired reaction
    Therefore, "take effect" amounts to "become effective". (not be effective)

    According to your example, the new law will take effect next month=the new law will become effective next month.

    I don't think you understand the difference between "be" and "become".
    Do you think that "be effective" is the same to "become effective"?

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    Re: was effective / took effect

    Quote Originally Posted by sarat_106 View Post
    Both terms mean the same. took effect=became effective/was effective=went into operation
    Thank you Sarat_106

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    I don't think you understand the difference between "be" and "become".
    Do you think that "be effective" is the same to "become effective"?
    At times ‘be’ and ‘become are interchangeable, as:
    I want to be a doctor=I want to become a doctor.
    "be effective" is the same as "become effective"? You may accept or may not accept this, but please do not try to teach me the difference. Do not expect any more clarifications from me.

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