Results 1 to 3 of 3
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Chinese
      • Home Country:
      • China
      • Current Location:
      • China

    • Join Date: Nov 2003
    • Posts: 2,715
    #1

    convince, so that

    Dear teachers,

    I have two questions to ask:

    No.1
    We tried to _____ them to take our advice, but all our efforts were in vain.
    a. persuade b. convince
    The key is 'a'. Could you please kindly explain why 'b' isn't correct?

    No.2
    "so", "and" , "so that" and "so....as to "are ways to expressing "result". I think "so....as to" suggests something that is going to happen and have a result. I get confused by the other three. It seems "and "and "so" suggest a result that immediately follows an act. "so...that" suggests something happened to such an extend a result followed. Please read the following sentence:

    The man was so tired that he could hardly put one foot before the other.
    Could you please explain if the following changes are correct:
    1. The man was tired and he could hardly put one foot before the other.
    2. The man was tired so he could hardly put one foot before the other.

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Oriya
      • Home Country:
      • India
      • Current Location:
      • India

    • Join Date: Mar 2008
    • Posts: 2,121
    #2

    Exclamation Re: convince, so that

    Quote Originally Posted by jiang View Post
    Dear teachers,

    I have two questions to ask:
    No.1
    We tried to _____ them to take our advice, but all our efforts were in vain.
    a. persuade b. convince
    The key is 'a'. Could you please kindly explain why 'b' isn't correct?
    A person is convinced by evidence or argument made to the intellect, where as a person is persuaded by appeals made to the will, moral sense, or emotions. Here you appealed them to take your advice and did not try to change their thoughts or believes.

    No.2
    "so", "and" , "so that" and "so....as to "are ways to expressing "result". I think "so....as to" suggests something that is going to happen and have a result. I get confused by the other three. It seems "and "and "so" suggest a result that immediately follows an act. "so...that" suggests something happened to such an extend a result followed. Please read the following sentence:

    The man was so tired that he could hardly put one foot before the other.
    Could you please explain if the following changes are correct:
    1. The man was tired and he could hardly put one foot before the other.
    2. The man was tired so he could hardly put one foot before the other.
    They are grammatical without emphasizing the degree of tiredness which leads to the result. You can not be immobile simply because you are tired.

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
    Skp

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Chinese
      • Home Country:
      • Malaysia
      • Current Location:
      • Malaysia

    • Join Date: Jun 2006
    • Posts: 2,130
    #3

    Re: convince, so that

    To convince is to change someone’s mind; to persuade is to move someone to action.
    Convince is a stronger word than persuade though the difference is subtle.
    'Persuade' is more apt in the sentence.

    not a teacher

Similar Threads

  1. I failed to convince the judge to set me free." correct?
    By twilit1988 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 16-Apr-2009, 13:55
  2. convince or persuade?
    By gdiamond in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 27-Jun-2006, 10:55
  3. convince and persuade;example
    By jiang in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-Mar-2005, 08:43

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •