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    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    (b) Nominal conjunctive adverb
    This is where I am.
    where I am = 'This'; subjective complement --> subordinate; nominal
    Thanks for your information.
    After reading your posting, I have studied some books & dictionaries.
    Some books agree with your classification.
    I hate to say this, but according to Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
    Definition and pronunciation of where | Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary

    According to the dictionary, "where" as conjunction means "the place or situation in which". I noticed that the sense of "the place" has already been embodied in this conjunction. I have read the other meanings of "where" as well in order to see it in perspective.

    To my thinking, it could be as below:
    If there is an ellipsis of "the place", then "where" is relative pronoun, or else it is subordinate conjunction, subordinator.

    Perhaps there are 2 standpoints in this matter. Sometimes, grammarians differ on ideas.

    Thanks for your help on this matter. Thanks you all. Good day.
    Last edited by panicmonger; 19-Apr-2010 at 04:55.

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    #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by panicmonger View Post

    To my thinking, it could be as below:
    If there is an ellipsis of "the place", then "where" is relative pronoun, or else it is subordinate conjunction, subordinator.
    'where' is not a pronoun. Pronoun is a formal category, one of the eight word classes. If a word is a pronoun, it is always a pronoun. I f a word is an adverb, it will be an adverb anywhere. If you are Chinese, you will not be an American in the United States, or Swedish in Sweden. You know what I mean?

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    #43

    Re: the fact that ....

    This is where I live.
    This is the place where I live.

    In #1, where I live = nominal subject complement; where = nominal relative adverb -- nominal means the clause it introduces is nominal, adverb refers to the word class 'where belongs'
    In #2, where I live = noun (the place) postmodifier; where = adnominal relative adverb

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    #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    'where' is not a pronoun. Pronoun is a formal category, one of the eight word classes. If a word is a pronoun, it is always a pronoun. I f a word is an adverb, it will be an adverb anywhere. If you are Chinese, you will not be an American in the United States, or Swedish in Sweden. You know what I mean?
    oh.. sorry, it is a typo.
    At the meanwhile, I have discovered something new.

    "where" is a relative adverb, when the context makes it so. for example:
    1. We moved to Paris, where We have lived for 7 years.
    (it makes sense because "where" modifies "live" and relates to "Paris")

    However, it is a conjunction when the context makes it so, especially after a preposition requiring a nominal because "the place" is a noun and is already embodied into the conjunction.
    2. This is where I am.


    In the end, I think that actually we are talking about one and the same from different viewpoints.
    one viewpoint makes the adverbial attribute of "where" prominent.
    whereas, another viewpoint makes the nominal attribute of "where" prominent.

    This is just my opinion, pls take it lightly.
    I have learned a lot from the threads. thanks TheParser and Corum so much.
    Good day.
    Last edited by panicmonger; 19-Apr-2010 at 12:29.

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    #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by panicmonger View Post
    This is just my opinion, pls take it lightly.
    Why would I take it harshly?

    Quote Originally Posted by panicmonger View Post
    I have learned a lot from the threads. thanks TheParser and Corum so much.
    Good day.

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