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    #1

    this good, this well

    Hello,
    Long time ago I asked about that sentence:
    You wish you looked this good.
    (It should be correct. - Present (no Past))

    Now I would like to know if I still can use good if I replace looked with any other word.
    You wish you played this good.
    I'm not sure because on the one hand good belongs to played but on the other hand it's this good.
    (Look + adverb is an exception as we know.)

    So let's say someone says:
    "You cannot play well, you're pretty bad."
    and you answer:
    "What? You wish you played this good!"
    (In case you need a bit more context )

    Cheers!


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    Re: this good, this well

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello,
    Long time ago I asked about that sentence:
    You wish you looked this good.
    (It should be correct. - Present (no Past))

    Now I would like to know if I still can use good if I replace looked with any other word.
    You wish you played this good.
    I'm not sure because on the one hand good belongs to played but on the other hand it's this good.
    (Look + adverb is an exception as we know.)

    So let's say someone says:
    "You cannot play well, you're pretty bad."
    and you answer:
    "What? You wish you played this good!"
    (In case you need a bit more context )

    Cheers!

    ***** NOT A TEACHER ****

    Good morning, nightmare,

    (1) Maybe I have misunderstood your post, but "good" is

    not usually considered an adverb.

    You + look (linking verb) + good (adjective -- describes your appearance).

    He + looked (full verb) + carefully (adverb -- in a careful manner).

    (2) Wow! I love the way you play the piano. I wish that I could play as WELL as you. ("well" = adverb. HOW you do something.)


    (3) To play good = popular but not "correct" English.


    (a) That soccer team plays real good. English teachers prefer:

    (i) That soccer team plays really well. / That soccer team plays very well.

    Have a nice day!
    Last edited by TheParser; 21-Apr-2010 at 20:40.

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    #3

    Re: this good, this well

    Good evening, Parser
    Thanks for your answer.

    I will try to explain it better:
    He looks very good. -> good = adjective
    He plays very well. -> well = adverb
    You wish you looked this good. -> good = adjective
    You wish you played this good. -> Do I need a well again?
    Please only focus on the this.

    He cannot play piano as well as I.
    -> well = adverb

    P.S: Are you sure wished is correct in your (2)?

    Cheers!

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    Re: this good, this well

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Good evening, Parser
    Thanks for your answer.

    I will try to explain it better:
    He looks very good. -> good = adjective
    He plays very well. -> well = adverb
    You wish you looked this good. -> good = adjective
    You wish you played this good. -> Do I need a well again?
    Please only focus on the this.

    He cannot play piano as well as I. -> well = adverb

    P.S: Are you sure wished is correct in your (2)?

    Cheers!
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good afternoon, nightmare.

    (1) I thank you for pointing out the mistake. I shall try to edit my post. I don't want to confuse others.

    (2) All your sentences seem great.

    (a) I have a question only about "You wish you played this good."

    (1) I feel that it should be "well."

    (a) You seem interested in the word "this."

    (i) As I understand it, "this" is sometimes an adverb. It = so.

    (a) You wish you played so well.

    (3) Thanks again for teaching me about "wish" vs. "wished."

    Have a nice day!

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    #5

    Re: this good, this well

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post

    (1) I thank you for pointing out the mistake. I shall try to edit my post. I don't want to confuse others.
    I'm sorry to interrupt to a thread that I'll not make a contribution in a linguistic aspect, but, to me, the other way round of what you have said would be correct. If you edited a post and corrected the mistake that had pointed out by another poster, this would cause a confusion. Because others (especially, the non-native members) would take a look where the mistake is, and if it was corrected, they take the corrected one for the incorrect. So, the right thing to do (at least, it's my opinion) is to leave the post as it is unless another poster doesn't point out any mistakes on that post.

    I hope I've managed to tell what I meant to say without being misunderstood. (it does happen once in a while since sometimes I can't pick the right words or the right phrasals)

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    Re: this good, this well

    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    I'm sorry to interrupt to a thread that I'll not make a contribution in a linguistic aspect, but, to me, the other way round of what you have said would be correct. If you edited a post and corrected the mistake that had pointed out by another poster, this would cause a confusion. Because others (especially, the non-native members) would take a look where the mistake is, and if it was corrected, they take the corrected one for the incorrect. So, the right thing to do (at least, it's my opinion) is to leave the post as it is unless another poster doesn't point out any mistakes on that post.

    I hope I've managed to tell what I meant to say without being misunderstood. (it does happen once in a while since sometimes I can't pick the right words or the right phrasals)
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    Good afternoon, euncu.

    (1) Thank you for your excellent suggestion.

    (2) What a coincidence. I also thought the same thing: editing out the mistake might confuse some readers.

    (3) But I decided that , all things considered, it would be better if I edited out any obvious errors.

    (4) Thanks again for your valuable input. I really enjoy reading your very useful replies to those of us who are continually trying to better our knowledge of this marvelous language.

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    #7

    Re: this good, this well

    Nightmare once again

    This is what I have found about your question:
    In an informal style, this and that are often used with adjectives and adverbs in the same way as so

    I didn't realize it was going to be this hot
    If your boy-friend's that clever, why isn't he rich?


    Not all that can be used to mean "not very"

    How was the play? - Not all that good

    Besides, we know that we do something well but a thing is good.
    As a rule "good" is not used to describe verbs.

    • Exceptions: verbs of sensation:

    The homemade cookies smell good
    with linking verbs:
    I feel good

    Following these rules, a "well" should be the right answer.

    I'll follow this thread Neither a teacher nor a native English speaker

    Cheerio

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    #8

    Re: this good, this well

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post


    (2) What a coincidence. I also thought the same thing: editing out the mistake might confuse some readers.
    And coincidentally, while reading your post, I've noticed the mistakes I made in my post from typos to grammatical ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    (4) Thanks again for your valuable input. I really enjoy reading your very useful replies to those of us who are continually trying to better our knowledge of this marvelous language.
    Thank you for your kind and encouraging remarks.

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    #9

    Re: this good, this well

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good afternoon, nightmare.

    (1) I thank you for pointing out the mistake. I shall try to edit my post. I don't want to confuse others.

    (2) All your sentences seem great.

    (a) I have a question only about "You wish you played this good."

    (1) I feel that it should be "well."

    (a) You seem interested in the word "this."

    (i) As I understand it, "this" is sometimes an adverb. It = so.

    (a) You wish you played so well.

    (3) Thanks again for teaching me about "wish" vs. "wished."

    Have a nice day!
    Hello and thanks,
    Yes, I also have the feeling.
    You wish you played so well.
    This sounds fully okay to me.
    You wish you played this well.
    I don't know, maybe it sounds strange to me, but I can imagine it's correct...

    Cheers!

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    Exclamation Re: this good, this well

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello and thanks,
    You wish you played this well.
    I don't know, maybe it sounds strange to me, but I can imagine it's correct...

    Cheers!
    I agree. There is no reason why ‘this well’ will be incorrect. Both ‘this’ and ‘that’ at times act as adverb. To me, “You wish you played that well.” sounds better.


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