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    Question Can I say like that?

    "English in thought" means we should think as an English native does as possible.

    We should learn how to ask&answer questions in English ways.
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    Can I just say like that above?

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    Re: Can I say like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iZicci View Post
    "English in thought" means we should think as an English native does as possible.

    We should learn how to ask&answer questions in English ways.
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    Can I just say like that above?

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    That doesn't sound natural to me iZicci.
    I would say:

    "Thinking in English" means we should think in English. We should think in English as much as a native speaker does. We should think in English as much as possible. We should think in English as closer as a native speaker does as possible.
    We should learn how to ask and answer questions in English.

    Not a native speaker

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    That doesn't sound natural to me iZicci.
    I would say:

    "Thinking in English" means we should think in English. We should think in English as much as a native speaker does. We should think in English as much as possible. We should think in English as closer as a native speaker does as possible.
    We should learn how to ask and answer questions in English.

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    I agree with suggestion. Here is an alternative; When you have a thought, you have an idea or concept in the mind which you want to develop or expand in English. So it is more appropriate to say:
    Developing/expanding thoughts in English

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    Thank you two!
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    Re: Can I say like that?

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    I agree with suggestion. ...
    Really - '...as closer...'? That expression is wrong.

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    Re: Can I say like that?

    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    We should think in English as closer as a native speaker does as possible.
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    Really - '...as closer...'? That expression is wrong.

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    Hi BobK, thanks for your contribution.
    I am sorry for my mistake. I am here to learn.

    I guess I should have written:

    We should think in English as closer to a native speaker's thinking as possible.

    or the simpler

    We should think in English just like a native speaker does.

    Is is correct now? What else do you suggest?

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    Re: Can I say like that?

    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    Hi BobK, thanks for your contribution.
    I am sorry for my mistake. I am here to learn.

    I guess I should have written:

    We should think in English as closer to a native speaker's thinking as possible.

    or the simpler

    We should think in English just like a native speaker does.

    Is is correct now? What else do you suggest?
    Sorry - no. 'As closer' is always wrong. You can't use a comparative adjective after 'as' when 'as' is used to make a comparison ('as...as'). You can in cases like this: 'I've always thought of him as closer than a friend'. In that case, 'closer than a brother' is what you think of him as, so you can use whatever takes your fancy - however surreal! 'I have always thought of him as a teapot', for example.

    But if something is 'as close as something', the word is just 'close'. In fact, I don't think the adjective really fits here; I'd say 'Our thinking should match a native speaker's thinking as closely as possible' (if that's what I thought...

    But I prefer your second version.

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    Sorry - no. 'As closer' is always wrong. You can't use a comparative adjective after 'as' when 'as' is used to make a comparison ('as...as'). You can in cases like this: 'I've always thought of him as closer than a friend'. In that case, 'closer than a brother' is what you think of him as, so you can use whatever takes your fancy - however surreal! 'I have always thought of him as a teapot', for example.

    But if something is 'as close as something', the word is just 'close'. In fact, I don't think the adjective really fits here; I'd say 'Our thinking should match a native speaker's thinking as closely as possible' (if that's what I thought...

    But I prefer your second version.

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    Thanks again BobK.

    If I write the sentences now substituting 'closer' by 'close' like these:

    We should think in English as close as a native speaker does as possible.
    We should think in English as close to the way a native speaker does as possible.
    We should think in English as close to a native speaker's thinking as possible.

    Are they grammatically correct?
    (I know they may be weird, and I agree your suggestion is better, but I just would like to know whether they are correct.)

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    Re: Can I say like that?

    Not strictly grammatical, because you're using an adj. phrase ('as close as...') to do the job of an adverb; but people would understand them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Sorry - no. 'As closer' is always wrong. You can't use a comparative adjective after 'as' when 'as' is used to make a comparison ('as...as'). You can in cases like this: 'I've always thought of him as closer than a friend'. In that case, 'closer than a brother' is what you think of him as, so you can use whatever takes your fancy - however surreal! 'I have always thought of him as a teapot', for example.

    But if something is 'as close as something', the word is just 'close'. In fact, I don't think the adjective really fits here; I'd say 'Our thinking should match a native speaker's thinking as closely as possible' (if that's what I thought...

    But I prefer your second version.

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    Excuse me.
    B, what's the second version you prefered?

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