English basics forgotten

Status
Not open for further replies.

sahil2kakkar2

New member
Joined
Sep 10, 2009
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Hindi
Home Country
India
Current Location
India
Sir
3 or 4 years ago I came across tenses, active-passive, direct-indirect prepositions etc. Now I feel comfortable with speaking in english though not much fluently and extemporaneously.
But my problem is this: Suppose I said a sentence "I'm sorry to have kept you waiting" Now I can't figure out that according to which rule have I used these words(have kept). I used them perhaps because I felt like using them and for no other reason.
Further, I've noticed many times that I fail to explain as to which rule governs the use of particular forms of expressions; I fail to reason though I have myself used them
 

TheParser

VIP Member
Joined
Dec 8, 2009
Member Type
Other
Native Language
English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Sir
3 or 4 years ago I came across tenses, active-passive, direct-indirect prepositions etc. Now I feel comfortable with speaking in english though not much fluently and extemporaneously.
But my problem is this: Suppose I said a sentence "I'm sorry to have kept you waiting" Now I can't figure out that according to which rule have I used these words(have kept). I used them perhaps because I felt like using them and for no other reason.
Further, I've noticed many times that I fail to explain as to which rule governs the use of particular forms of expressions; I fail to reason though I have myself used them


***** NOT A TEACHER *****

Good morning, Sahil.

(1) Don't feel bad. We ordinary native speakers don't know all the rules,

either.

(2) Of course, the most important thing is to speak (or write) correctly.

(3) Many students learn all the rules, but they still can't speak correctly.

(4) Yes, I believe that you were correct in saying: I am sorry TO HAVE

KEPT you waiting.

(5) As you undoubtedly learned in school, this is an infinitive (because of

the "to" and the perfect because of "have kept." ) My grammar books

call this a "perfect infinitive."

(6) Suppose you are the boss. Someone comes to see you. Your

secretary tells that person to wait. That person waits for 45 minutes

because you are very busy. Finally, you walk out of your office and say

to that waiting person: Oh, I am so sorry to have kept you waiting."

(a) I think that most books would suggest the perfect infinitive because

it refers to the past (the 45 minutes that the person was waiting) and the

present (when you walked out and started to speak).

(b) If you had said, "I am sorry that I kept you waiting," some books

would recommend that you use the past only for something that is

definitely past and finished. For example, if you call him/her the next

day, you would say: I am sorry that I kept you waiting so long yesterday."

(6) It's great that you speak correct English even though you cannot

cite the rules. Except for teachers, very few people think of the rules.

They learn "good" English by imitating "educated" speakers and reading

"good" literature.

Best of luck.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top