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    is vs. are

    "The primary motion, together with 13 alternative motions, is/are the subject of the decision."

    Which is correct, is or are?

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    Re: is vs. are

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasmin165 View Post
    "The primary motion, together with 13 alternate motions, is the subject of the decision."

    Which is correct, is or are? "is" But the sentence is odd.

    Thanks.
    The subject of the sentence is "The primary motion".

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    Re: is vs. are

    2006: I am inclined to agree, but what if we replace "together with" with "and", which in this example, would be synonymous?

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    Re: is vs. are

    Quote Originally Posted by billmcd View Post
    2006: I am inclined to agree, but what if we replace "together with" with "and", which in this example, would be synonymous?
    Then we would have a compound subject, without commas, and the correct verb would be "are".

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    Re: is vs. are

    Hmmmm. I'm thinking.

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    Re: is vs. are

    Are you both sure that it wouldn't be subjects then?
    The primary motion and the 13 alternate motions are the subjects of the decision.

    Or do you think subject is already okay?

    Cheers!

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    Re: is vs. are

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Are you both sure that it wouldn't be subjects then?
    The primary motion and the 13 alternate motions are the subjects of the decision.

    Or do you think subject is already okay?
    Yes, I would use "subjects". But again, it's an odd sentence.
    Cheers!
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    Re: is vs. are

    The primary motion, together with 13 alternative (not alternate) motions, is the matter of the decision.

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    Re: is vs. are

    2006 is correct: if you simply conjoin NPs by means of prepositions (together with, along with, etc.), the phrase thus produced does not constitute a compound subject and thus has no bearing on verbal number. 'And', on the other hand, is a true coordinating conjunction.

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    Re: is vs. are

    'together with', 'as well as', etc. are pseudo-coordinators. Pseudo comes from the fact (I think) that the conjoins affect the number of the verb according to the number of the first conjoin. If the two conjoins are singular, the verb will be singular. When the first conjoin is plural, the verb will be plural too.

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