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    #1

    is it correct?

    i've ever heard such this"if i knew him, i would have said hello"
    ... is it correct..??
    as i know....
    the form is " if+simple past, conditional I (=would + infinitive)
    I am much obliged to you for your guidance.
    Thanks.,

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    Re: is it correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by moebachelor View Post
    i've ever heard such this"if i knew him, i would have said hello"
    ... is it correct..??
    as i know....
    the form is " if+simple past, conditional I (=would + infinitive)
    I am much obliged to you for your guidance.
    Thanks.,

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good morning, Moebachelor.

    (1) I think it is correct:

    Tom: Why didn't you say hello to George yesterday?

    You: Well, if I knew him (I do not know him), I would have said hello."

    *****

    I know VERY little about the conditional. I think (only THINK):

    1st = If I HAVE time, I WILL visit you.

    2nd = If I HAD time (I do not), I WOULD visit you.

    3rd = If I HAD HAD time last week (I did not), I WOULD HAVE VISITED

    you.

    *****

    If I am correct, then your sentence seems to be a combination of

    2nd (If I knew) + 3rd (I would have said hello).

    I think that grammar books tell us that many times we have to make

    combinations in order to express correctly what we mean.

    Let's see what others can teach you and me.

    Have a nice day!

    *****

    I think that if George died, and someone asked you why you had not

    said hello to George last month, then you could use all 3rd:

    If I HAD KNOWN George at that time (I did not), I certainly WOULD HAVE

    SAID hello.


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    Re: is it correct?

    thanks a lot for to The Parser in advance..

    i dig it for a little bit...

    but, i still have two questions....

    • in what situation can we use such a combination of conditional...??
    • what's its real meaning???

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    Re: is it correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by moebachelor View Post
    thanks a lot for to The Parser in advance..

    i dig it for a little bit...

    but, i still have two questions....

    • in what situation can we use such a combination of conditional...??
    • what's its real meaning???
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Hello again.

    (1) I am sorry, but I do not understand your question.

    (2) Do you mean to explain in more detail your example sentence?

    (3) If that is the case, then I will be happy to try:

    (a) You and Tom, a friend, are talking.

    (b) Tom asks you: Hey, yesterday when we saw George across the

    street, I waved to him, but you did not wave to him. Why?

    (c) You reply: If I knew him, I would have waved.

    (i) When you say "If I knew" (2nd conditional), that means you DO NOT

    KNOW him. You have never met him.

    (a) If I knew French (I don't), I would teach it.
    (b) If I had ten million dollars (I don't), I would give you $1,000.
    (c) If Joe had a nice car (he doesn't), he could drive to the mountains.

    It's important to remember that "knew" and "had"

    are NOT being used as past forms here. They are referring to something

    now that is not true. If I knew = I do not know.

    (4) So in your example, you are telling your friend that the only reason

    that you did not wave to George yesterday was that you do not know

    George and that you do not like to wave to strangers. When you say, "If

    I knew George, I would have waved to him," you want to say something

    like:

    The only reason that I did not wave to George is that I do not know him.

    (5) If you have more questions, just keep posting them. Sooner or

    later, you will get an answer from someone who can help you understand.

    If I could shake your hands now (Of course, I cannot. We are in two

    different countries), I would wish you the best of luck.


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    thank you. . . and i wish we could shake hands one day.
    it's simply clear...

    I plan to go to college majoring English but I always find a lot of confusions. . .
    Last night, I found these query:

    • The book is only available in the library.....these two chapters are taken. ( I wonder what adjective clause which I can fill with whether "from which" or "which from". My teacher in my course ( who is not majoring in English) answered "which from". But, i have a doubt about it.)
    • When friends insist on.....expensive gifts, it makes most American unconfortable.

    the possible answers are:

    1. them to accept
    2. their accepting

    but, again I'm opposite with my teacher. As for me, the answer is number 1.

    I'm looking forward your answer there

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    Re: is it correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by moebachelor View Post
    thank you. . . and i wish we could shake hands one day.
    it's simply clear...

    I plan to go to college majoring English but I always find a lot of confusions. . .
    Last night, I found these query:

    • The book is only available in the library.....these two chapters are taken. ( I wonder what adjective clause which I can fill with whether "from which" or "which from". My teacher in my course ( who is not majoring in English) answered "which from". But, i have a doubt about it.)
    • When friends insist on.....expensive gifts, it makes most American unconfortable.
    the possible answers are:

    1. them to accept
    2. their accepting
    but, again I'm opposite with my teacher. As for me, the answer is number 1.

    I'm looking forward your answer there

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good morning, Moebachelor.

    (1) First, good luck on your career. I'm sure that you will be very

    successful.

    (2) I personally prefer:The book from which these two chapters are taken is available only in the library.

    (3) And I prefer: When friends insist on their accepting expensive gifts, it makes most Americans uncomfortable.

    (a) You notice the word "on." After "on," you cannot use an infinitive.

    You need an -ing word: I invited my friends to dinner, but they

    insisted on (their) paying the bill.

    Have a nice day!

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