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    bertietheblue is offline Senior Member
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    plural with 'is'?

    I've just picked up the Guardian and read this:

    'Ashley Cole's pace and attack down the flank is key'

    Fine? Should be 'are'? Either, with slightly different meanings?

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    Quote Originally Posted by bertietheblue View Post
    I've just picked up the Guardian and read this:

    'Ashley Cole's pace and attack down the flank is key'

    Fine? Should be 'are'? Either, with slightly different meanings?
    If I trim the subject, I get this:

    Ashley Cole's pace and attack down the flank.

    Usually, a compound NP (noun phrase) (in subject position) assigns plural number to its verb. When, however, the compound is treated as one, singular is okay.

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    The hustle and bustle of this city attracts me.

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    If I trim the subject, I get this:

    Ashley Cole's pace and attack down the flank.

    Usually, a compound NP (noun phrase) (in subject position) assigns plural number to its verb. When, however, the compound is treated as one, singular is okay.
    Yeah, I gave a bad example for the answer to be 'either, or - it depends on the meaning'. I was thinking what if, for example, 'pace' meant general pace and not pace down the flank? But then you wouldn't say 'Ashley Cole's attack down the flank'; you'd have to say 'Ashley Cole's attacks down the flank', making the plural necessary.

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    Quote Originally Posted by bertietheblue View Post
    it depends on the meaning'.


    You like football?

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

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    You like football?
    Well, let's just say I'm lucky enough to work at home. Standards might drop while the World Cup is on!

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    Quote Originally Posted by bertietheblue View Post
    Well, let's just say I'm lucky enough to work at home. Standards might drop while the World Cup is on!
    Same here.

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    I take it you're not supporting an English-speaking country, not that I'd have known from your amazing command of the language!

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    At club level, the best football is played in Spain, Italy, and England. Football anywhere else is satirical mimicry.
    At national level, I think Spain, Germany, and Brazil will be the top three. I will be rooting for the best team. May the best man (or team) win -- that is what I say.

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    Re: plural with 'is'?

    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    May the best man (or team) England win -- that is what I say.

    Bertie

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