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    Frustated 50+ parent that is helping 7th grader. Sentence: The conditions for workers were unsafe there. Is "there" an adverb? If yes. What verb, adverb or adjectives is it describing.

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    Re: adverbs

    Quote Originally Posted by bamthor View Post
    Frustated 50+ parent that is helping 7th grader. Sentence: The conditions for workers were unsafe there. Is "there" an adverb? If yes. What verb, adverb or adjectives is it describing.
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good morning, Bamthor.

    (1) As I type, no one else has replied. If I start, maybe others will join in.

    I REALLY want to know the answer.

    (2) Here are some thoughts -- NOT answers!!!

    (3) You are tutoring a 7th-grader. I imagine that a 7th-grade teacher

    does not want to make grammar too difficult:

    The teacher: What does "there" mean?

    Sammy: At that place.

    The teacher: Excellent. And what part of speech is "there"?

    Mary: An adverb.

    The teacher: Perfect. And what word does "there" modify (belong to)
    in our sentence?

    Joey: Were.

    The teacher: Why?

    Mona: Because "were" is a verb, and adverbs modify verbs.

    I imagine that if a 7th-grade class could have this level of discussion, any teacher would be delighted.

    *****

    I, however, am not satisfied:

    (a) I feel that an adverb cannot modify a linking verb, since a linking verb means nothing.
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    Re: adverbs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post

    (a) I feel that an adverb cannot modify a linking verb, since a linking verb means nothing.
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    How about this:
    It looks exactly the same.

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    Re: adverbs

    In that example, I'd say "exactly" is modifying "the same."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: adverbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    In that example, I'd say "exactly" is modifying "the same."
    He said they would look [exactly the same] and [exactly the same] they looked.

    So would I.

    What about this:
    He said they would [almost look] the same, and the same they [almost looked]


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    Re: adverbs

    Quote Originally Posted by bamthor View Post
    Frustated 50+ parent that is helping 7th grader. Sentence: The conditions for workers were unsafe there. Is "there" an adverb? If yes. What verb, adverb or adjectives is it describing.
    Can someone please diagram this sentence?

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    Re: adverbs

    Quote Originally Posted by bamthor View Post
    Can someone please diagram this sentence?
    According to Quirk et al., (1985), adverbials can be categorized into four classes according to their affinity with the rest of the containing sentence:

    - adjunct
    - subjunct

    sentence adverbials:

    - conjuncts
    - disjunct

    Among these, only the class of adjuncts have parity with other sentence elements such as subject, object, complement.

    Like subject, object, and complement, and unlike the other three types of adverbials, they can be the focus of cleft sentences:

    The conditions for workers were unsafe there.
    It is the condition for workers that were unsafe there. -- subject focus
    It is unsafe that the condition for workers were there -- complement focus
    It is there that the condition for workers were unsafe -- adjunct focus

    The parallel between adjunct and other sentence constituents extends also to contrast in alternative interrogation or negation:

    Were the conditions for workers safe there or were something else safe? -- subject contrast in alternative interrogation

    Were there or were here the conditions for workers safe? --adjunct contrast in alternative interrogation
    The conditions for workers were safe there but not here. -- adjunct contrast in alternative negation.

    Irrespective of their position, adjuncts come within the scope of predication ellipsis or pro-forms, exactly like other constituents that follow the operator (the first tensed auxiliary in a sentence):

    The condition for workers were safe there and the condition for employers were safe there.

    =

    There, the condition for workers were safe and so were the condition for employers.

    Furthermore, like subject, object, and complement, adjuncts can be too elicited by question forms:

    What was safe there? The condition for workers. = subject
    What was the condition for workers like? Safe. = complement
    Where was the condition for workers safe? There. = adjunct

    We have more than enough empirical evidence that 'there' in your sentence is a "normal adverbial", adjunct. It modifies the verb, "were".

    Your diagram is:


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    (Ms. Weaver is a follower of

    transformational grammar.)

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    Re: adverbs

    The chrysalis slowly turned green.

    turned = linking verb
    slowly = adverb modifier modifying 'turned'

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    Re: adverbs

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good afternoon.

    (1) If you are a person who is still interested in this matter, I wish to report my findings.

    (2) I have been communicating with as many people as possible, and I have found some answers that satisfy me and perhaps will satisfy you, too.

    (3) There the conditions for workers were unsafe./ The conditions for workers were unsafe there.

    (a) In those two sentences, the adverb of place "there" modifies the verb "were."

    (4) The conditions there for workers were unsafe.

    (a) "there" modifies "conditions." The adverb is acting as an adjective.

    (5) The conditions for workers there were unsafe.

    (a) "there" modifies "workers."

    Thank you and have a nice day!

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