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    Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    Please correct these sentences if wrong
    eg :You must be knowing to jive
    "Knows":
    eg: 1) She said she doesn't knows you well (Reported speech)
    2)You know me ,but I dont know you have we met before?
    3) I know you well
    "Known"
    eg She said she had not known you well that time
    I have known him well ( when do we say this)
    I have known you since 3 years

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    Re: Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    ***neither a teacher nor a native-speaker***

    Quote Originally Posted by englishquestion View Post
    Please correct these sentences if wrong
    eg :You must be knowing how to jive.
    "Knows":
    eg: 1) She said (that) she doesn't didn't knows you well.(Reported speech)
    2)You know me, but I don't know you;" hHave we met before?" or I can't remember whether we have met or not.
    3) I know you well.
    "Known"
    eg She said she had not known you well that time.
    I have known him well. ( wWhen do we say this?)
    I have known you sincefor 3 three years. Normally, it's "I know him/you...". or I met him three years ago.
    Mine is just a small contribution until a native-speaker or a teacher show up on your thread.


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    Re: Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    To know something is a state, therefore we do not use the continuous form.

    Therefore: You must know how to jive.

    When using an auxiliary verb we do not use the 's after the verb.

    Therefore: She said she doesn't know you well (Reported speech)
    (It is correct here to use doesn't rather than didn't the speech being reported is put into pasted tense)

    You know me ,but I dont know you. Have we met before? (Just add a full stop or comma to separate the questions)
    I know you well (Fine)

    Known is the past participle of Know, therefore would be used in the past perfect (the past of the past).

    She said she had not known you well that time (fine as long as you know what 'that time' refers to)
    I have known him well (when do we say this) (I can't think of a situtation when you would say this.)
    I have known you for 3 years (for not since)

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    Re: Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    Quote Originally Posted by Mooncalf View Post

    She said she doesn't know you well (Reported speech)
    (It is correct here to use doesn't rather than didn't the speech being reported is put into pasted tense)
    Would you check out the link below?

    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...-said-etc.html

    I guess, Raymott will beg to differ.


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    Re: Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    Quote Originally Posted by Mooncalf View Post
    To know something is a state, therefore we do not use the continuous form.

    Therefore: You must know how to jive.

    When using an auxiliary verb we do not use the 's after the verb.

    Therefore: She said she doesn't know you well (Reported speech)
    (It is correct here to use doesn't rather than didn't the speech being reported is put into pasted tense)

    You know me ,but I dont know you. Have we met before? (Just add a full stop or comma to separate the questions)
    I know you well (Fine)

    Known is the past participle of Know, therefore would be used in the past perfect (the past of the past).

    She said she had not known you well that time (fine as long as you know what 'that time' refers to)
    I have known him well (when do we say this) (I can't think of a situtation when you would say this.)
    I have known you for 3 years (for not since)
    Hi thanks for your reply but you said ,
    You must know how to jive, using must know don't you think as if I am warning someone that he should know to jive or am I wrong because What I mean in my sentence(You must be knowing to jive) was that I am assuming that he know to jive as the person is a Catholic.
    Also I just wanted to know ,so the word"knows"doesn't exist ,right.Is this sentence correct:He know to dance

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    He knows how to dance.

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    Re: Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    Quote Originally Posted by englishquestion View Post
    Also I just wanted to know ,so the word"knows"doesn't exist ,right.Is this sentence correct:He know to dance
    No, that is the wrong conclusion.

    Knows is correct for third-person singular, simple present.

    He knows how to dance, as shown above.

    You use the bare form of the verb (with "to know" it's just "know") after a modal verb:
    He might know
    He should know
    He must know
    He may know
    He could know
    etc.

    You also use it after any form of the verb "to do."
    He doesn't know
    He didn't know
    She does know, doesn't she?
    Does she know?
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    I'm fascinated by the idea that you assume someone knows how to jive because they're Catholic!!!

    I'm an atheist so I won't pretend to know all the little quirks of different religions, but Catholics being known for their jiving skills isn't one I've ever heard before.

    Anyway, the fact remains that "You must know how to jive" is correct, because you are using "must" to indicate a reasonable conclusion (I am almost certain that you know how to jive).
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    Re: Do we say "Knowing" ,"knows" and "known "

    ... so: 'You must know how to whirl, you're a Dervish' would be grammatically correct if perhaps insensitive

    'Knows' does exist, but in this context it's (e.g.) "he knows how to dance".

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