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    Has successfully been sent

    Hello,
    On some other forums I read this sentence after I sent a private message:
    Thank you, your private message has successfully been sent.

    Many months ago I learned a rule (here on UsingEnglish).
    Has been adverb verb

    He will be permanently banned.
    The ban can be easily bypassed.
    Your private message has been successfully sent.
    He will permanently be banned.
    The ban can easily be bypassed.

    Your private message has successfully been sent.
    What do you think

    Maybe I confuse something...
    Well, I guess the "Adverbs vs me"-fight will never end

    Cheers!

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    #2

    Re: Has successfully been sent

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello,
    On some other forums I read this sentence after I sent a private message:
    Thank you, your private message has successfully been sent.

    Many months ago I learned a rule (here on UsingEnglish).
    Has been adverb verb

    He will be permanently banned.
    The ban can be easily bypassed.
    Your private message has been successfully sent.
    He will permanently be banned. Yes, sounds clumsy.
    The ban can easily be bypassed.
    Sounds normal
    Your private message has successfully been sent. Sounds OK
    What do you think
    I think some of the "rules" for the placement of adverbs are rather flexible.
    Maybe I confuse something...
    Well, I guess the "Adverbs vs me"-fight will never end
    Don't worry. We expect Germans to put their adverbs in the wrong position! It's similar to how we Australians place our soccer balls.
    Cheers!
    R.

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    Re: Has successfully been sent

    I can explain to you the problem from the point of view of transformational grammar (or so I hope):

    There are the so-called S-adverbs and there are the so-called VP-adverbs. The former means the adverb can be placed between any one pair of adjacent constituents of the sentence that are immediately dominated by S.

    'certainly' is an S-adverb, an epistemic adverb, which means its position vis-a-vis other constituents looks like this:

    Your message has been sent.

    *[Your message]* [has]*[been sent]* = [NP][M][VP]

    Note the positions of *, which mark the possible positions for 'certainly' in the sentence.

    VP-adverbs, on the other hand, can only occur in positions where they are immediately attached to VP.

    [Your message][has]*[been * sent]*

    * = possible positions for 'successfully'

    He will be permanently banned. VP-adverb
    The ban can be easily bypassed. VP-adverb
    Your private message has been successfully sent. VP-adverb
    He will permanently be banned. VP-adverb
    The ban can easily be bypassed. VP-adverb
    Your private message has successfully been sent. VP-adverb

    Well, I guess the "Adverbs vs me"-fight will never end
    Same here. They drive me crazy. We should obliterate them.

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    Re: Has successfully been sent

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Don't worry. We expect Germans to put their adverbs in the wrong position! It's similar to how we Australians place our soccer balls.
    That is funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello,
    Well, I guess the "Adverbs vs me"-fight will never end

    Cheers!
    Positioning an adverb correctly in a sentence can at times be really tricky as it can change the meaning with different placements. There are three normal positions for adverbs in a sentence: 1) initial position (before the subject) 2) mid position (between the subject and the verb or immediately after be as a main verb) or
    3) end position (at the end of the sentence).
    We generally follow the following three rules in order to avoid complications.

    Rule 1. Never put an adverb between the verb and the object.
    We often play handball. - CORRECT We play often handball. - WRONG

    Rule 2. When more than one adverb is used to modify a verb, the sequence of placement of the adverbs follow the order; Manner - PlaceTime
    Peter sang the song happily in the bathroom yesterday evening.

    Rule 3. When the verb is a compound one, consisting of one or more auxiliary, the adverb is usually placed after the first auxiliary.
    He was greatly praised for his novel idea.
    The ban can easily be bypassed
    Your private message has successfully been sent.

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    #6

    Re: Has successfully been sent

    Quote Originally Posted by sarat_106 View Post

    Rule 1. Never put an adverb between the verb and the object.
    We often play handball. - CORRECT We play often handball. - WRONG
    We chose only courses worthy of Americans.

    Focusing subjuncts (type of adverbial) can indeed come between V and O.

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