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    #11

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.

    Let's take a similar example:

    I suppose you are coming to the party, ......

    1) aren't you ?
    2) don't you ?

    I suppose you are coming to the party, aren't you ?

    if we use "don't you" we would ask : Do you suppose that you [...] I think it's not what we want to know.

    Let's change "I don't think" to "I reckon" or" I suppose" or "I don't suppose"

    I reckon it will rain, .... (won't it)

    All the expressions are just expressing our opinion on the mater
    and could be left out making a simple question:

    It will rain, won't it ?
    You coming to the party, aren't you ?


    As we have negative "I don't think" we put non-negative question tag at the end of the sentence.


    Cheers,
    Last edited by Jaskin; 17-Jun-2010 at 11:34.

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    #12

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    Well...talking to yourself is weird.
    It may be weird but not uncommon when you are trying to learn a foreign language.
    I often talk to myself when I am trying to learn a foreign language.

    (Sorry, I know it is off the topic and not related to the original questions but I couldn't resist.)

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    #13

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    ***** GOOD NEWS !!! ***** WONDERFUL NEWS !!! *****SENSATIONAL NEWS!!!

    (1) Harry, it seems that your teacher (and some of the great posters in this

    thread) were correct: the answer to No. 1 is PROBABLY "will it."

    (a) Professor Quirk in his famous Comprehensive Grammar of the English

    Grammar (1985) discusses this case of "transferred negation" on pages

    811 and 1035. (The "not" transfers to the that- clause.)

    (i) The professor and his colleagues give these examples:

    (a) I do not suppose that he is serious, IS he? = I suppose that he is not serious, is he?

    (b) I do not imagine that he cares, does he? = I imagine that he doesn't care, does he?

    (c) I do not think that she knows French, does she? = I think that she doesn't know

    French, does she?

    THEREFORE, I think (only THINK) that

    I do not think that it will rain tomorrow, will it? =

    I think that it will not rain tomorrow, will it?

    (2) Thank you, Harry, for the question. It made me learn more about

    my native language.

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    #14

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    ***** GOOD NEWS !!! ***** WONDERFUL NEWS !!! *****SENSATIONAL NEWS!!!

    (1) Harry, it seems that your teacher (and some of the great posters in this

    thread) were correct: the answer to No. 1 is PROBABLY "will it."

    (a) Professor Quirk in his famous Comprehensive Grammar of the English

    Grammar (1985) discusses this case of "transferred negation" on pages

    811 and 1035. (The "not" transfers to the that- clause.)

    (i) The professor and his colleagues give these examples:

    (a) I do not suppose that he is serious, IS he? = I suppose that he is not serious, is he?

    (b) I do not imagine that he cares, does he? = I imagine that he doesn't care, does he?

    (c) I do not think that she knows French, does she? = I think that she doesn't know

    French, does she?

    THEREFORE, I think (only THINK) that

    I do not think that it will rain tomorrow, will it? =

    I think that it will not rain tomorrow, will it?

    (2) Thank you, Harry, for the question. It made me learn more about

    my native language.
    Good job TheParser!
    This reference is indeed clear, right to the point!

    It justifies 'will it' as a correct answer in the original sentence, BUT it does not rule out the other possibility 'do you'. It really depends on the CONTEXT.
    I maintain my opinion that both 'do you' and 'will it' are acceptable, depending on the context.

    In my opinion this is the kind of question which should be carefully avoided in ordinary English tests.

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    #15

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Hello, Ymnisky.

    (1) YES! You are 100% correct!!!!!!

    (2) I have just communicated with an ESL teacher who grades examinations for a living. She is VERY experienced!!!

    (3) She says:

    (a) "Do you" would be the most "appropriate"with the correct intonation.


    (b) "Will it" could also be correct, but the speaker would have to make it clear that s/he is referring to the rain.

    (3) You must go back to teaching. Students need teachers like you!

    ***** Thank you *****

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    #16

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    1 I don't think it will rain tomorrow____?
    I don't think it will rain tomorrow,
    A don't you B do you C won't it D will it
    B is the correct answer. The sentence starts with what one person thinks about the chances of rain and ends with asking another person what they think of the chances of rain. The first person is asking another person for agreement.

    "I think it will rain tomorrow, don't you." This is a different statement and requires a different response.
    I do not think it will rain tomorrow, (or) will it?
    It won't rain tomorrow, I think, (or) will it?
    I don't think it will rain tomorrow, do you? (and you?)
    I think it will rain tomorrow, don't you? (and you? I expect you do too)



    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    2 I think two days_____enough to finish this task.
    A is B are
    You are correct, B is the right answer. Two days is plural. One thousand kilometers can be understood as being one thing rather than a number of kilometers.
    Sorry, but no. Only A is correct. Two days is indeed plural grammatically, but not notionally.

    Swan, 527: amounts and quantities: that five pounds

    When we talk about amounts and quantities we usually use singular determiners, verbs, and pronouns, even if the noun is plural.

    Twenty miles is a long way to walk.
    We have got five liters of petrol left. That is not enough.
    I think (the period of) two days is enough.
    I think two days are enough.

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    #17

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    #18

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry12345 View Post


    Cool emoticon, (:crazyeye:)!

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    #19

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    Sorry, but no. Only A is correct. Two days is indeed plural grammatically, but not notionally.
    Swan, 527: amounts and quantities: that five pounds
    I think (the period of) two days is enough.
    I think two days are enough.
    But then we could almost only use singular.
    I think (the amount of) 3 men is enough.
    I know (the number of) 10 computers is too few.
    I believe (the period of) three days is too many; two days is enough already.

    Sounds very strange to me.

    I think 3 men are enough.
    I know 10 computers are too few.
    I believe three days are too many; two days are enough.

    Sounds correct to me.

    I'm sorry, corum, but this is my point of view.
    If you want to say "the amount of", then do it.
    To me it makes no sense to "imagine" words, and in the original sentence there is no mention of "the amount of".

    Two days - are - enough.
    Plural - are - adjective.

    Another example:
    Women are my weak point.
    Two women are my weak point.
    My weak point is women.

    Would you really say, "Women is my weak point"?
    I guess you won't.
    So why should, "Two women is my weak point"? be correct?
    "My weak point is women" -> no doubt!
    Singular - is - subj. complement.

    Cheers!

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    #20

    Re: Hello, Teachers! Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post
    I think (the period of) two days is enough.
    I think two days are enough.
    I agree. I'm not sure if I ever heard the second option. (Well, I'm a Pole living in Poland so it doesn't mean much)

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