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    15 sentences (3)

    First of all, I know that I wrote 15 sentences which are huge in one thread, so don’t be angry about it and take your time to solve it.
    Secondly, I don’t know what the third types of these sentences are called, so what is called?

    Simple Present Tense
    When Peter tries to catch his cat it hides itself under a chair.
    Passive Voice (Simple Present Tense)
    When catches are tried by Peter to his cat it hides itself under a chair.
    Abstract noun phrase
    When Peter’s catching of his cat happens it hides itself under a chair.

    Future Tense
    Willy will furnish his bed after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing breakfast to him.
    Passive Voice (Future Tense)
    Willy’s bed will be furnished by him after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing breakfast to him.
    Abstract noun phrase
    Willy’s furnishing of his bed will be after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing breakfast to him.

    Simple Tense
    Tom played with his friends a brilliant game so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
    Passive Voice (Simple Tense)
    A brilliant game was being played by Tom with his friends so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
    Abstract noun phrase
    Tom’s playing of a brilliant game with his friends made him happy all the day.

    Present Continuous Tense
    Kathy is helping her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
    Passive Voice (Present Continuous Tense)
    Kathy’s mother is being helped by Kathy to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
    Abstract noun phrase
    Kathy’s helping of her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point was an excellent work or thing.

    Past Continuous Tense
    During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer.
    Passive Voice (Past Continuous Tense)
    During programing, discovering was being trying by Andy about what was lacking his computer.
    Abstract noun phrase
    During programing, Andy’s trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.
    Last edited by Atchan; 22-Jun-2010 at 05:17.

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    #2

    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    I've explained it in the last post of the following thread; take a look at it. See if it's the explanation that you want! I have just something to add here:

    -Possessive pronoun + abstract noun + preposition + verb + ...
    -Your + rejection + of + the offer + was + ...

    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...24191-a-2.html

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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    Quote Originally Posted by chester_100 View Post
    I've explained it in the last post of the following thread; take a look at it. See if it's the explanation that you want! I have just something to add here:

    -Possessive pronoun + abstract noun + preposition + verb + ...
    -Your + rejection + of + the offer + was + ...

    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...24191-a-2.html
    This process is referred to as an abstract noun phrase as you said in a previous thread.
    What about fixing the sentences?

    Thank you so much.

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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    **Neither a teacher nor a native speaker.**

    Quote Originally Posted by atchan View Post
    First of all, I know that I wrote 15 sentences which are huge in one thread, so donít be angry about it and take your time to solve it.
    Secondly, I donít know what the third types of these sentences are called, so what is called?

    Simple Voice
    When Peter tries to catch his cat it hides (itself) under a chair.
    Passive Voice (Simple Voice)
    When Peter's cat is tried to be caught by Peter, it hides under a chair.
    (When Peter's cat is tried to catch by Peter, it hides under a chair.)
    But I think version 1 is better/correct.
    ???
    When Peterís catching of his cat happens it hides (itself) under a chair.

    Future Voice
    Willy will furnish his bed after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing making/cooking breakfast to for him.
    Passive Voice (Future Voice)
    Willyís bed will be furnished by him after he wakes up while his mother will be fixing making/cooking breakfast to for him.
    ???
    After Willy wakes up he's furnishing of his bed while his mother will be fixing making/cooking breakfast to for him.

    Simple Voice
    Tom played with his friends a brilliant game so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
    Passive Voice (Simple Voice)
    A brilliant game was being played by Tom with his friends so during the game he hit the ball with the baseball bat several times.
    ???
    Tomís playing (of) a brilliant game with his friends made him happy all the day.

    Present Continuous Voice
    Kathy is helping her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
    Passive Voice (Present Continuous Voice)
    Kathyís mother is being helped by Kathy to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point.
    ???
    Kathyís helping of her mother to heat or boil the tea to the boiling point was an excellent work or thing.

    Past Continuous Voice
    During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer.
    Passive Voice (Past Continuous Voice)
    During programing, the lacking about his computer was tried to be discovered.
    ???
    During programing, Andyís trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.
    Okay, first off.
    I have absolutely no idea if my "corrections" are okay at all.
    Some sentences don't make any sense to me:
    And why did you use the word "of" so many times in some sentences?

    I have the feeling that your 's = was:
    During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.

    My suggestion (in case I'm right):
    Don't write "Andy's" if you mean "Andy was".
    It can confuse members.
    Are all the first three sentences past?

    Well, I hope some teachers will say something here.

    P.S. Did you write all these sentences by yourself?

    Cheers!

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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    **Neither a teacher nor a native speaker.**


    Okay, first off.
    I have absolutely no idea if my "corrections" are okay at all.
    Some sentences don't make any sense to me:
    And why did you use the word "of" so many times in some sentences? It’s a rule for abstract noun phrase
    The + application + of + something + to + something


    I have the feeling that your 's = was:
    During programing, Andy was trying to discover what was lacking his computer took half hour.
    My sentence seems Ok but yours is strange to me

    My suggestion (in case I'm right):
    Don't write "Andy's" if you mean "Andy was".
    It can confuse members.
    I didn’t mean as you understood. It’s a possessive noun which is used with nouns to show possession.
    Are all the first three sentences past? No, they're simple present tense.

    Well, I hope some teachers will say something here.

    P.S. Did you write all these sentences by yourself? Yes, but it takes time when I write it. Usually, when I write sentences there are mistakes in it, so I try to practice more to improve my English and get help from the teachers here in this brilliant forum.

    Cheers!
    I answered your questions above. Thank you.
    Last edited by Atchan; 22-Jun-2010 at 05:15.


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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    I have a headache from reading this thread.

    Could you please clarify if you want to know about 1) passive/active voices or 2) past, present, and future tenses?

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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    Some sentences should never be attempted in the passive.

    I STRONGLY suggest you find some simpler sentences to practice this on.

    Mary throws the ball to Peter.
    Try to transform that to the passive.

    If you really think that's too easy, then try this:
    When Mary throws the ball to Peter, he always drops it.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Editors4Writers View Post
    I have a headache from reading this thread.

    Could you please clarify if you want to know about 1) passive/active voices or 2) past, present, and future tenses?
    haha , what I want from the teachers is to check my sentences whether there are mistakes or not. Some members in this forum know what I mean and this is not my first thread of this kind. So I can say you nice to meet you.....

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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    atchan,
    Please do not be offended by this, but your sentences are so full of errors and misuses of English that it's almost impossible to correct them.

    PLEASE write simpler sentences. Test your knowledge on simple sentences. Work with simple sentences.

    You are not ready for the complex sentences you are attempting.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: 15 sentences (3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Some sentences should never be attempted in the passive.

    I STRONGLY suggest you find some simpler sentences to practice this on.

    Mary throws the ball to Peter.
    Try to transform that to the passive.

    If you really think that's too easy, then try this:
    When Mary throws the ball to Peter, he always drops it.
    Mary throws the ball to Peter.
    The ball is thrown by Mary to Peter.

    When Mary throws the ball to Peter
    When the ball is thrown by Mary to Peter he catch it.

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