Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. Nightmare85's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • German
      • Home Country:
      • Germany
      • Current Location:
      • Germany

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 1,333
    #1

    also + not

    Hello guys,
    I was taught not to use also in negative sentences.
    He is also not right.
    The new patch is also not a solution.
    I also don't like that rule.


    Theoretically, we could simply cheat:
    He is also wrong.
    The new patch is also no solution.
    I also dislike that rule.


    Are the first three sentences really grammatically not correct?
    We all understand them, but this doesn't automatically mean they are correct
    Could there be a chance that it's an AmE vs. BrE topic

    Cheers!

  2. Offroad's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Brazilian Portuguese
      • Home Country:
      • Brazil
      • Current Location:
      • Brazil

    • Join Date: Feb 2008
    • Posts: 2,817
    #2

    Re: also + not

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    I was taught not to use also in negative sentences.
    He is also not right.
    The new patch is also not a solution.
    I also don't like that rule.

    I did not know that. Could you please provide some reference?

  3. Nightmare85's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • German
      • Home Country:
      • Germany
      • Current Location:
      • Germany

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 1,333
    #3

    Re: also + not

    I learned that in school many years ago.
    We'll see if it's really true

    Cheers!

  4. Nightmare85's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • German
      • Home Country:
      • Germany
      • Current Location:
      • Germany

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 1,333
    #4

    Re: also + not

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillnetter View Post
    Do you mean to say that you cannot write -
    Not only does he sing, but he also dances.
    She not only led the team in dancing but also in singing.
    Why not buy this now and also get the bonus trip?
    I'm really sorry, but I don't understand anything
    She not only
    Why not buy


    Why such fragmentations??
    And what do you mean by "-"?
    Did you just use it instead of a ":"?

    And no, I don't think your sentences match mine - I think their kind is different.

    Cheers!

  5. philadelphia's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • French
      • Home Country:
      • France
      • Current Location:
      • France

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 838
    #5

    Re: also + not

    IMO:
    Also implies that there's a kind of something good added and that's fine.
    Too would mean to add something either bad or not that good.

    So => He is also experienced in playing football
    => He isnt good at playing football, too

    That sounds more proper to my ears as also+not would sound weird

    Not a teacher at all
    Last edited by philadelphia; 22-Jun-2010 at 21:40.

  6. Nightmare85's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • German
      • Home Country:
      • Germany
      • Current Location:
      • Germany

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 1,333
    #6

    Re: also + not

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphia View Post
    IMO:
    Also implies that there's a kind of something good added and that's fine.
    Too would mean to add something either bad or not that good.

    So => He is also experienced in playing football
    => He isnt good at playing football, too

    That sounds more proper to my ears as also+not would sound weird

    Not a teacher at all
    Correction:
    Either would mean to add something either bad or not that good.

    => He isnt good at playing football either.

    (As far as I know).

    Cheers!

  7. philadelphia's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • French
      • Home Country:
      • France
      • Current Location:
      • France

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 838
    #7

    Re: also + not

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Correction:
    Either would mean to add something either bad or not that good.

    => He isnt good at playing football either.

    (As far as I know).

    Cheers!
    ?

  8. Nightmare85's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • German
      • Home Country:
      • Germany
      • Current Location:
      • Germany

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 1,333
    #8

    Re: also + not

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphia View Post
    ?
    I play well.
    He plays well too.
    He also plays well.

    I don't play well.
    He doesn't play well either.

    He also doesn't play well. -> should be wrong!

    Doesn't this apply to your example sentences?

    P.S. https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...tml#post582775

    Cheers!

  9. philadelphia's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • French
      • Home Country:
      • France
      • Current Location:
      • France

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 838
    #9

    Re: also + not

    He isnt good at playing football too

    That sentence is correct unless a native speaker comes and argues that s/he has never heard of it and that's uncorrect as well.

    Maybe I am obviously wrong

  10. Nightmare85's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • German
      • Home Country:
      • Germany
      • Current Location:
      • Germany

    • Join Date: Jul 2009
    • Posts: 1,333
    #10

    Re: also + not

    Guys, we need your help

    Cheers!

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •