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    #1

    Having

    Dear all

    I was trying to find out what is grammatically wrong with this sentence, but could not come up with an explanation:

    'Having a more thorough look at the documentation, we realise that....etc'

    Is it wrong? And if so how would you rephrase it?

    Another question: does anyone know if you enrol on/to/in a course?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.

    Ninnemouse

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    #2

    Re: Having

    Hi,

    I'm not a teacher.

    'Having a more thorough look at the documentation, we realise that....etc'

    Did it happen in the past?
    Then I would say 'we realised...'

    Is it something in general?
    Then I would say 'we can realise...'

    As I've learnt we say 'enrol in a course'.

    heyt

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    #3

    Re: Having

    Thank you very much for your kind reply. I was also opting for 'enrol in a course'

    Ninnemouse

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    #4

    Re: Having

    I have only seen "enroll" with two Ls, but I did see that "enrol" with one L was listed in the dictionary as a variant spelling.

    I think I would write "Having HAD a more thorough look... "
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #5

    Re: Having

    Hi, I don't understand what's wrong with "Having a more thorough look..", is it a command? Can it be "Have a more thorough look.." ?
    Could you, Barb_D, please explain more about your sentence "Having HAD a more thorough look..", what is its grammatical structure?
    Thank you so much !

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    #6

    Re: Having

    hi,
    please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

    [...] what is its grammatical structure?
    I'm not Barb but I hope she doesn't mind.

    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...tml#post376930

    I don't know why but the "a more through" sounds a bit odd,
    I'd rephrase it to :

    all the way through
    through and through
    scrutinous

    Anyway the expression is to have a look at [something] so: having + had(past participle of have )
    btw..

    to enrol on a course (British English)
    to enroll in a course (American English)

    Cheers
    Last edited by Jaskin; 25-Jun-2010 at 12:53.

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    #7

    Re: Having

    Thank you. I would have never been able to recall that thread.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #8

    Re: Having

    What about the usage of "have" with "to" like an infinitive? Would someone like to elaborate it?
    An example;
    I'm very proud to have served this country.

    Thanks in advance.

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    #9

    Re: Having

    I'm happy to meet you. (We are meeting right now.)
    I was happy to have met you. (We met in the past.)

    I'm proud to serve my country. (I am in uniform right now.)
    I'm proud to have served my country. (I am no longer in the service.)

    She hopes to go to the beach. (Her plan now.)
    She had hoped to have gone to the beach. (Her plan then.)

    If you look at the pairings of where you would normally use the "normal" in infinitive in the present, you can see how the perfect works with it for the past.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #10

    Re: Having

    Thank you very much for your explanation.

    I'd like to ask one last thing about it, especially about your last example. Is there such a thing as backshifting for the past perfect in this case? I mean, something like that;

    1)She hopes to go to the beach. (Her plan now.)
    2)She hoped to have gone to the beach. (Her plan then.)
    3)She had hoped to had gone to the beach. (Her plan before any past event.)(?)

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