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    Please tell me the stative verbs that can be used in progressive aspect.

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    Re: stative verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by harum View Post
    Please tell me the stative verbs that can be used in progressive aspect.
    Given the correct context, all of them can be.

    If you're being taught they can't be, then don't use them that way in an exam. But don't be surprised when you hear them being used progressively.

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    Smile Re: stative verbs

    Thanks for reply
    In the following sentences 'agree' and 'appear' is used with -ing.Is this construction right?

    The difficulty with these systems was agreeing who would maintain them in the future .


    No wonder lines were appearing on his face.

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    Re: stative verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by harum View Post
    Thanks for reply
    In the following sentences 'agree' and 'appear' is used with -ing.Is this construction right?

    The difficulty with these systems was agreeing who would maintain them in the future .
    Agreeing is a gerund here, not a present participle. Nobody "was agreeing". This sentence means:
    The difficulty with these systems [Subject] was [Copula Verb] agreeing [gerund noun ] who would maintain them in the future [Complement]. OR
    "Agreeing who would maintain them in future [Subject] was [Copula Verb] the difficulty [noun] with the system [Complement].

    Still, you can write a progressive sentence with "agree".
    "It was a strange discussion. I couldn't tell if they were agreeing or not."


    No wonder lines were appearing on his face.
    Good.
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    Re: stative verbs

    Hello,

    Many stative verbs can mix with grammatical progressive aspect. As you may already know, stative verbs have a permanency and unchanging aspect to them which is why using progressive aspect with it would make some pretty funny and redundant sounding sentences (ex. I am knowing this question / I know this question). However, if you hear stative verbs being used with progressive aspect, a temporary/hypothetical state and internally viewed sense is expressed. For example:

    "I'm far more comfortable knowing that Israel has nuclear weapons than I am knowing that Iran is trying to posses them."

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    Re: stative verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by joelsensei View Post
    Hello,

    Many stative verbs can mix with grammatical progressive aspect. As you may already know, stative verbs have a permanency and unchanging aspect to them which is why using progressive aspect with it would make some pretty funny and redundant sounding sentences (ex. I am knowing this question / I know this question). However, if you hear stative verbs being used with progressive aspect, a temporary/hypothetical state and internally viewed sense is expressed. For example:

    Yes.

    "I'm far more comfortable knowing that Israel has nuclear weapons than I am knowing that Iran is trying to posses them."
    Are you sure about this example? Again, it seems not to be "aux of "to be" + present participle" -> present progressive tense.

    Doesn't it mean:
    "I'm far more comfortable knowing that Israel has nuclear weapons than I am comfortable knowing that Iran is trying to posses them."?
    It doesn't mean "I am more uncomfortable now that I am knowing that Iran is trying to possess them." (which would be an example, but a bad one.)

    Again, "I'm more uncomfortable knowing this than I am knowing that." is not an example of a stative verb used progressively because there's an ellipted "uncomfortable".

    Isn't "knowing" a gerund in your example? "Knowing this makes me more uncomfortable than knowing that."

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    Re: stative verbs

    I agree with Raymott- I don't see that as 'I am knowing'; if it were, couldn't we delete the first part of the sentence and simply start with 'I am knowing'?

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    Re: stative verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Are you sure about this example? Again, it seems not to be "aux of "to be" + present participle" -> present progressive tense.

    Doesn't it mean:
    "I'm far more comfortable knowing that Israel has nuclear weapons than I am comfortable knowing that Iran is trying to posses them."?
    It doesn't mean "I am more uncomfortable now that I am knowing that Iran is trying to possess them." (which would be an example, but a bad one.)

    Again, "I'm more uncomfortable knowing this than I am knowing that." is not an example of a stative verb used progressively because there's an ellipted "uncomfortable".

    Isn't "knowing" a gerund in your example? "Knowing this makes me more uncomfortable than knowing that."
    Raymott,

    You're quite right, and I didn't realize it until I was on the train heading to school. The example I gave is a gerund following an ellipted predicate adjective. However, the main thrust of what I was saying is still valid. Stative verbs when used in a hypothetical or temporary state and internally viewed can and are used with progressive aspect.

    "Of course, we could say that in the 1950s, we were knowing so little about space that our visions were naive."

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    Re: stative verbs

    Hello
    I want your help again.In the following sentence 'Denying' is verb or something else.
    "There is no denying the fact that such data is also required".

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    Re: stative verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by harum View Post
    Hello
    I want your help again.In the following sentence 'Denying' is verb or something else.
    "There is no denying the fact that such data is also required".

    maybe this helps - "It is fact that such data is also required."

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