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    30 Simple Sentences (4)

    Please check these sentences and amend if there are mistakes or misuse.
    I added abstract noun phrase to my list of writing English after I had studied its principle lately.
    By the way, I didn't change some of these sentences (which are gerund) to passive tense because it seems awkward.

    Thank you in advance

    ---Simple Present Tense---
    Active Voice: When Peter counts his money he piles them up.
    Passive Voice: When the money is counted by Peter he piles them up.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Peter’s counting of his money improves his mathematic skills.

    ---Future Tense---
    Active Voice: Tom will wash his fan before polishing it.
    Passive Voice: The fan will be washed by Tom before polishing it.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Tom’s washing of his fan will make it clean.

    ---Simple Past Tense---
    Active Voice: The dentist pulled out her tooth because it was loose.
    Passive Voice: Her tooth was pulled out because it was loose. >> I removed the doer because it seems sense.
    Abstract Noun phrase: The dentist’s pulling out of her tooth was after she complained of a pain. >> Which one is right “complain of” or ”complain from”

    ---Present Continuous Tense---
    Active Voice: Andy is passing the salt to his brother now.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: Andy’s passing of the salt to his brother is sympathy.

    ---Past Continuous Tense---
    Active Voice: The policemen were patrolling our streets last night.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: Policemen’s patrolling of our streets last night was to be responsible of the safe.

    ---Present Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: The workmen have paved the street several days ago.
    Passive Voice: The Street has been paved several days ago. >> I removed the doer because it seems sense.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Workmen’s paving of the street has made the street straight.

    ---Present continuous Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: I have been pressing the power button of my computer to turn it on.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: My pressing on the power button of my computer has been turning it on.

    ---Past Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: Mary had bought vegetables then turned it to salad.
    Passive Voice: Vegetables had bought by Mary then turned it to salad.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Mary’s buying of vegetables then turned it to salad made her a cook.

    ---Past Continuous Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: William had been painting a picture when he was a child.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: William’s painting of a picture had been when he was a child.

    ---Future Continuous Tense---
    Active Voice: When Tom does an improvement in his school work the teacher will be praising him.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: Tom's doing of an improvement in his school work will be praised by the teacher.
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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    I'll start:
    Active Voice: When Peter counts his money he piles them up.- money/them doesn't work- use it

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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    [QUOTE=atchan;620728]Please check these sentences and amend if there are mistakes or misuse.
    I added abstract noun phrase to my list of writing English after I had studied its principle lately.
    By the way, I didn't change some of these sentences (which are gerund) to passive tense because it seems awkward.

    Thank you in advance

    ---Simple Present Tense---
    Active Voice: When Peter counts his money he piles them up.
    Passive Voice: When the money is counted by Peter he piles them up.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Peterís counting of his money improves his mathematic skills.

    ---Future Tense---
    Active Voice: Tom will wash his fan before polishing it.
    Passive Voice: The fan will be washed by Tom before polishing it.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Tomís washing of his fan make it clean.

    ---Simple Past Tense---
    Active Voice: The dentist pulled out her tooth because it was loose.
    Passive Voice: Her tooth was pulled out because it was loose. >> I removed the doer because it seems sense.
    Abstract Noun phrase: The dentistís pulling out of her tooth was after she complained of a pain. >> Which one is right ďcomplain ofĒ or Ēcomplain fromĒ

    ---Present Continuous Tense---
    Active Voice: Andy is passing the salt to his brother now.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: Andyís passing of the salt to his brother is sympathy.

    ---Past Continuous Tense---
    Active Voice: The policemen were patrolling our streets last night.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: Policemenís patrolling of our streets last night was to be responsible of the safe.

    ---Present Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: The workmen have paved the street several days ago.
    Passive Voice: The Street has been paved several days ago. >> I removed the doer because it seems sense.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Workmenís paving of the street has made the street straight.

    ---Present continuous Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: I have been pressing the power button of my computer to turn it on.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: My pressing on the power button of my computer has been turning it on.

    ---Past Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: Mary had bought vegetables then turned it to salad.
    Passive Voice: Vegetables had bought by Mary then turned it to salad.
    Abstract Noun phrase: Maryís buying of vegetables then turned it to salad made her a cook.

    ---Past Continuous Perfect Tense---
    Active Voice: William had been painting a picture when he was a child.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: Williamís painting of a picture had been when he was a child.

    ---Future Continuous Tense---
    Active Voice: When Tom does an improvement in his school work the teacher will be praising him.
    Passive Voice:
    Abstract Noun phrase: Tom's doing of an improvement in his school work will be praised by the teacher.[/


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    Hello, Atchan.

    (1) I have to congratulate you: your understanding of the passive

    is getting better every time. Many people have been advising you about

    the passive, so I know that they are very proud of your progress.


    (2) May I make a few comments?

    (a) The fan will be washed by Tom before he polishes it.

    (b)Her tooth... . = Excellent!!!

    (i) You used the word "doer." That's fine, but I think grammar books

    prefer the word "agent."

    (c) In my opinion, it is fine to say:

    The salt is being passed by Andy to his brother.

    (d) Again, I believe that it is fine to say:

    The streets were being patrolled by the policemen last night.

    (e) I think that we should not use the present perfect with "several

    days ago." It might be better to use the past. So:

    The street was paved several days ago.

    (f) Yes, the "power button" sentence cannot be changed to a nice-

    sounding passive one. You are 100% right.

    (g) Vegetables had been bought by Mary who then made a salad with

    them.

    (h) Yes, you are correct again. No passive for the "painting picture"

    sentence. That is, no beautiful-sounding passive.


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    Again: congratulations on making such great progress!!!

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    Hopefully, other posters will comment on your sentences with gerunds.

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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    Hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.

    I didn't change some of these sentences (which are gerund) to passive tense because it seems awkward.
    The only active vice sentence, I see, that has a gerund is :
    Tom will wash his fan before polishing it.
    Cheers,
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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    I'll start:
    Active Voice: When Peter counts his money he piles them up.- money/them doesn't work- use it
    Why should I use "it" instead of "them" because here I'm talking about a plural (some money).

    For example
    Monkeys climbed a tree.
    They climbed a tree.

    If I'm not on right please clarify it for me. Thank you.

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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskin View Post
    Hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.


    The only active vice sentence, I see, that has a gerund is :


    Cheers,
    When I’m converting an active voice sentence to passive voice, its nice to avoid converting if it has a gerund in the first clause not the second clause. Because the second clause doesn't relate with the passive principle. Am I right?

    One question, what is the difference between these sentences.
    Tom will wash his fan before polishing it.
    Tom will wash his fan before he polishes it.

    P.S: Feel free to correct my mistakes on this writing.
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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    First of all, I want to thank Theparser for his encouragement.

    Secondly, The reason that I donít talk a lot or inquire about some mistakes is because the more I write or try to explain something the more I do a lot of mistakes or errors, so any member in this forum must feel free to correct any mistake in my writing.

    I think TheParser has checked the active and passive voice but abstract noun phrase wasnít checked by, can another one check and amend them.

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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

    Regardless whether you talking about "money" or "some money" it is still uncountable noun. It doesn't have a plural form; so you need "it" not "them".

    When Iím converting an active voice sentence to passive voice, its nice to avoid converting if it has a gerund in the first clause not the second clause. Because the second clause doesn't relate with the passive principle. Am I right?
    What I tried to say is that the sentences below haven't got gerund.

    Andy is passing the salt to his brother now.
    The policemen were patrolling our streets last night.
    I have been pressing the power button of my computer to turn it on.
    William had been painting a picture when he was a child.
    When Tom does an improvement in his school work the teacher will be praising him.

    When we are talking about "gerund" we mean two things: its form (-ing) and its function (noun). In your sentences they are all verbs. There is no problem with changing sentences with progressive aspect (-ing form of a verb).
    Let's take :
    A: The Policemen were patrolling our streets last night.
    P: Our streets were being patrolled last night.

    But not all would sound "good".
    I have been pressing the power button of my computer to turn it on.
    If someone said that to me I would assume that the computer had broken or at least the power button doesn't work. If you want to say that you must press the power button to turn it on just say it in present simple:
    I press the power button of my computer to turn it on.

    Secondly, the reason that I donít talkwrite a lot or inquire about somecorrecting mistakes is because the more I write or try to explain something the more I doa lot of mistakes or errors I make, so any member in this forum mustplease feel free to correct any mistakes in my writing.
    we make mistakes; not do mistakes
    Thank you atchan for your encouragement but I don't usually feel confident enough to do proofreading. I could have miss something.

    Keep writing and trying to explain; the more the better.

    One question, what is the difference between these sentences.
    Tom will wash his fan before polishing it.
    Tom will wash his fan before he polishes it.
    None really, the only difference there is the grammar that you used to express the same idea.
    I think you don't need the agent(doer) in passive:
    The fan will be washed before polishing.

    Cheers,
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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

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    Hello, Atchan.

    (1) I was waiting for someone to start checking your sentences with gerunds. No one

    has, so may I start with the first five?

    Before I start, may I say two things:

    (a) In everyday English, the word "money" is considered singular:

    Money IS important/ Money makeS the world go around.

    (The plural of moneys/monies is used only in big business sometimes.)

    (b) I think that if you break up your post into shorter posts, you will get

    more and faster answers. Just my respectful suggestion.

    (3) OK. Now let me share my ideas about the first 5. Of course, I could

    be very wrong. That's why we non-teachers are required to begin our posts with

    the words "NOT A TEACHER."

    (a) Peter's counting his money every day has helped to improve his math skills.

    (b) Tom's washing his fan keeps it nice and clean.

    (c) The dentist's pulling out her tooth alleviated the pain that she was complaining

    about.

    (d) Andy's passing the salt to his brother was an act of genuine concern.

    (e) The policemen's patrolling of the streets makes them much safer.

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    Learning English well is going to really help you in your career.

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    Re: 30 Simple Sentences (4)

    Theparser, Here you are again checking and amending, great person you are. You have checked the most of this thread, but Iím still waiting solutions for the important 5 sentences which confused me. I had ordered clarifications about it in that day but I preferred to write sentences, thinking that it will solve the problem.

    Theparser, you advised me to break up my threads into shorter posts to get faster answers. I want to say OK I will do it. But what if I half them 15 and 15 will that be good?

    I will put them here again to lessen the problems of you, so please check it.

    ---Present Perfect Tense---
    Abstract Noun phrase: Workmenís paving of the street has made the street straight.

    ---Present continuous Perfect Tense---
    Abstract Noun phrase: My pressing on the power button of my computer has been turning it on. >>> My friend Jaskin advised me that when Iím talking about something that repeats everyday to use simple present but I know that, here Iím just trying to know that present continuous perfect tense fits with abstract noun phrase or not?

    ---Past Perfect Tense--- Can I use Past perfect tense with abstract noun phrase?
    Abstract Noun phrase: Maryís buying of vegetables then turned it to salad made her a cook. >>> My friend TheParser gave me an excellent sentence of passive tense for this, but when I try to approach or come closer to his style I can't.

    ---Past Continuous Perfect Tense---
    Abstract Noun phrase: Williamís painting of a picture had been when he was a child.

    ---Future Continuous Tense---
    Abstract Noun phrase: Tom's doing of an improvement in his school work will be praised by the teacher.
    Last edited by Atchan; 07-Jul-2010 at 23:08.

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