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    "But what I find that is (1)truly and beautifully magic is(2) these people, friends of mine, who are now happy, friendly, warm and optimistic people."
    I am stupid I cannot understand the functions of is(1.2).thank for your instuction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notletrest View Post
    "But what I find that is (1)truly and beautifully magic is(2) these people, friends of mine, who are now happy, friendly, warm and optimistic people."
    I am stupid I cannot understand the functions of is(1.2).thank for your instuction.

    Number 1 is used after that. We usually say "that is truly and beautifully magic". Number 2 refers to what. Look here: What I find is these people.

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    Re: 11.is

    Quote Originally Posted by notletrest View Post
    "But what I find that is (1)truly and beautifully magic is(2) these people, friends of mine, who are now happy, friendly, warm and optimistic people."
    I am stupid I cannot understand the functions of is(1.2).thank for your instuction.
    The sentence could have been written: "But what I find to be truly and beautifully magic is that these people, friends of mine, who are now happy friendly, warm and optimistic people."

    Where are you getting these sentences? They seem to be quite difficult and possibly not native-written. In that case, you shouldn't feel stupid not understanding them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    The sentence could have been written: "But what I find to be truly and beautifully magic is that these people, friends of mine, who are now happy friendly, warm and optimistic people."

    Where are you getting these sentences? They seem to be quite difficult and possibly not native-written. In that case, you shouldn't feel stupid not understanding them.
    Oh,I see.As we know what=the thing that,the construction is: "The thing that I found is good is you pass "equally.By the way the original is by Dr P. scott corbett in a chinese magazine.
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    Re: 11.is

    Quote Originally Posted by notletrest View Post
    "But what I find that is (1)truly and beautifully magic is(2) these people, friends of mine, who are now happy, friendly, warm and optimistic people."
    I am stupid I cannot understand the functions of is(1.2).thank for your instuction.

    ********** NOT A TEACHER **********

    Hello, Notletrest:

    (1) I really liked your sentence because it was very difficult, and I could

    not quickly understand it.

    (2) Yesterday I searched my books, and I think that I have a correct

    explanation (I hope so).

    (3) I found a similar use of "what" in one of my grammar books:

    What they admired that they copied.

    I think the book says that "that they copied" explains the word "what."

    *****

    Therefore, I think that your sentence is something like:

    I find what that IS magic ("that is magic" describes "what")

    IS

    these people... .

    (a) "That" = the subject of the first IS.

    (b) "What I find that is magic" = the subject of the second IS.

    ***** Thank you for your question.

    ***** P. S. My book says that the use of "what" is used only

    "occasionally" in this way. But it is a beautiful sentence, isn't it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    ********** NOT A TEACHER **********
    Hello, Notletrest:
    (1) I really liked your sentence because it was very difficult, and I could
    not quickly understand it.
    (2) Yesterday I searched my books, and I think that I have a correct
    explanation (I hope so).
    (3) I found a similar use of "what" in one of my grammar books:
    What they admired that they copied.
    I think the book says that "that they copied" explains the word "what."
    *****
    Therefore, I think that your sentence is something like:
    I find what that IS magic ("that is magic" describes "what")
    IS
    these people... .
    (a) "That" = the subject of the first IS.
    (b) "What I find that is magic" = the subject of the second IS.
    ***** Thank you for your question.
    ***** P. S. My book says that the use of "what" is used only
    "occasionally" in this way. But it is a beautiful sentence, isn't it!!!
    Hello,TheParser,Thanks for your earnestness!Your teaching is full of evidence.But in my eyes your example is another pair of shoes.The construction "what...that..."As your book says such what is "occsionally."Following that , we can say:What you said that I thought of.Please give your comments!Thanks a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by notletrest View Post
    Hello,TheParser,Thanks for your earnestness!Your teaching is full of evidence.But in my eyes your example is another pair of shoes.The construction "what...that..."As your book says such what is "occsionally."Following that , we can say:What you said that I thought of.Please give your comments!Thanks a lot!
    ********** NOT A TEACHER **********

    Hello, Notletrest.

    (1) Thank you for your note.

    (2) I am so glad that you keep asking until you understand something.

    (3) I am guessing that you may be planning to teach English. So

    you want to understand English really well. Then you can answer

    your students with 100% confidence. That's great!!!

    (3) I agree with you: "What you said that I thought of" is

    not a well-formed sentence. In fact, I do not think that it even

    qualifies as a "sentence." Maybe we would have to change it to:


    (a) What you said is something that I thought of.

    (b) It was what you said that I thought of.

    *****

    By the way, it is NOT important, but I feel that you want to know:

    "Your example is another pair of shoes" is not, as far as I know,

    an idiom in American English. Am I right to think that you wish to say

    that my example is something entirely different? If so, I think there is an

    idiom "that is a horse of a different/ of another color."

    Thank you.
    Last edited by TheParser; 09-Jul-2010 at 15:09.

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