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    Question among dead or deads?

    The early morning attack wounded more than 80 people and took place as officials nearby were distributing wheelchairs and other aid to the needy. Officials say women and children are among the dead.


    The above article is quoted from today's VOA , to the last sentence ,could you tell me why VOA used among the dead not "deads"?

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    Re: among dead or deads?

    Sometimes we use adjectives as a noun meaning "people who are like this."

    We will say "the rich" or "the poor," for example.

    In your example, "the dead" = the people who are dead.

    We don't make it plural.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: among dead or deads?

    Quote Originally Posted by tien-sung View Post
    The early morning attack wounded more than 80 people and took place as officials nearby were distributing wheelchairs and other aid to the needy. Officials say women and children are among the dead.


    The above article is quoted from today's VOA , to the last sentence ,could you tell me why VOA used among the dead not "deads"?

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    Barb D has explained it very well. Please notice that you have another example in the previous sentence. It is "needy" and not "needies." Again, it is a case of an adjective being used as a noun. I guess you could say they are short for "needy people" and "dead people."

    Upon consulting a dictionary I believe that such adjectives are described as "acting collectively," hence becoming nouns. But I'm not sure.

    Thank you for bringing these interesting examples.
    Last edited by kfredson; 09-Jul-2010 at 18:25.

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    Re: among dead or deads?

    Quote Originally Posted by kfredson View Post
    Please notice that you have another example in the previous sentence. It is "needy" and not "needies."
    Oh, well spotted!
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