Results 1 to 5 of 5
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: May 2010
    • Posts: 577
    #1

    Infinitive usage: is this acceptable?

    'This document is not required to, and does not, contain all information.'

    or does 'contain' serve two functions which should be distinguished, at least in formal English (in this case, a legal document), so:

    'This document is not required to contain, and does not contain, all information.'

  1. bhaisahab's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Ireland

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 25,609
    #2

    Re: Infinitive usage: is this acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by bertietheblue View Post
    'This document is not required to, and does not, contain all information.'

    or does 'contain' serve two functions which should be distinguished, at least in formal English (in this case, a legal document), so:

    'This document is not required to contain, and does not contain, all information.'
    Would it not be simpler and more direct to say: "This document does not contain all (the) information, as it is not required to do so".

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: May 2010
    • Posts: 577
    #3

    Re: Infinitive usage: is this acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Would it not be simpler and more direct to say: "This document does not contain all (the) information, as it is not required to do so".
    Thanks, and yes, that would make sense in any other case. But I'm afraid the wordier and more stilted the English is in a legal document, the better, and a lawyer would see any correction into plain English as both needless and, for a legal document, unidiomatic. So, the essential structure has to remain and, given this, my question is simply whether or not the first sentence is acceptable.

  2. bhaisahab's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Ireland

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 25,609
    #4

    Re: Infinitive usage: is this acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by bertietheblue View Post
    Thanks, and yes, that would make sense in any other case. But I'm afraid the wordier and more stilted the English is in a legal document, the better, and a lawyer would see any correction into plain English as both needless and, for a legal document, unidiomatic. So, the essential structure has to remain and, given this, my question is simply whether or not the first sentence is acceptable.
    In that case yes, the first sentence is OK. Heaven forbid that we should make legal documents understandable to everyone.

  3. kfredson's Avatar

    • Join Date: Dec 2009
    • Posts: 700
    #5

    Re: Infinitive usage: is this acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by bertietheblue View Post
    'This document is not required to, and does not, contain all information.'

    or does 'contain' serve two functions which should be distinguished, at least in formal English (in this case, a legal document), so:

    'This document is not required to contain, and does not contain, all information.'
    I would accept either form, although I would prefer the second.

Similar Threads

  1. [Grammar] Proper usage of "to be + Infinitive"
    By vladim_pol in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 31-Oct-2008, 10:24
  2. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-Nov-2007, 11:41
  3. Use of 'off' to indicate quantity. Acceptable usage or not?
    By Unregistered in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-Sep-2007, 10:29
  4. Infinitive Usage.
    By Albino in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-Nov-2006, 21:30

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •