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    Japanese show respect ...

    Hello!

    A. During the festival of Obon, Japanese show respect to their dead ancestors.
    B. The Japanese regard Mount Fuji as a sacred mountain.

    In what way are Japanese in A and the Japanese in B different?

    A. Japanese means all those alive, all those already dead, and all those to be born.
    B. The Japanese means all those alive only.

    Thanks in advance

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuo View Post
    Hello!

    A. During the festival of Obon, Japanese show respect to their dead ancestors.
    B. The Japanese regard Mount Fuji as a sacred mountain.

    In what way are Japanese in A and the Japanese in B different?

    A. Japanese means all those alive, all those already dead, and all those to be born.
    B. The Japanese means all those alive only.

    Thanks in advance
    C. They are two ways of saying the same thing.

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuo View Post
    A. During the festival of Obon, Japanese show respect to their dead ancestors.
    A small irrelevant question by me (as usual ) ;
    Shouldn't it be pay instead of show? If it is not, doesn't the sentence read that Japanese don't respect to their dead ancestor except the festival period. (It's about semantics, I'm not insinuating anything, please don't misunderstand me)

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    No, pay is more common than show in this context. To pay implies that the recipient receives something of value, whereas to show would mean you're doing it to satisfy a (living) audience.

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    I always thought that paying respect was an action to show one's respect (or to show that one is respectful), and showing respect is an attitude.

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    A small irrelevant question by me (as usual ) ;
    Shouldn't it be pay instead of show? If it is not, doesn't the sentence read that Japanese don't respect to their dead ancestor except the festival period. (It's about semantics, I'm not insinuating anything, please don't misunderstand me)
    I pretty much agree: it is traditional for the Japanese to pay respect to their ancestors during Obon by returning to their family homes, and visiting and cleaning their ancestors' graves. However, it is also true that, in doing so, they are showing respect for their ancestors.

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    Hello!

    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    A small irrelevant question by me (as usual ) ;
    Shouldn't it be pay instead of show? If it is not, doesn't the sentence read that Japanese don't respect to their dead ancestor except the festival period. (It's about semantics, I'm not insinuating anything, please don't misunderstand me)
    First, I should say that these sentences are not mine, but ones borrowed from Longman Language Activator.
    In the case of this collocation, that is, pay respect (singular), I found only one example sentence as below.

    From all over the country, people came by the thousands to pay respect to their dead leader. (from the same source)

    Pay doesn’t seem to make a big difference, I think.

    Thank you very much

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    Quote Originally Posted by bertietheblue View Post
    I pretty much agree: it is traditional for the Japanese to pay respect to their ancestors during Obon by returning to their family homes, and visiting and cleaning their ancestors' graves. However, it is also true that, in doing so, they are showing respect for their ancestors.
    Thank you. That was definitely what I got in my mind. (yours is better stated, though)

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuo View Post
    Pay doesn’t seem to make a big difference, I think.

    Thank you very much
    Not a huge difference, but I would go along with the idea that paying respect is heartfelt, while showing respect could be more of a social duty.

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    Re: Japanese show respect ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Not a huge difference, but I would go along with the idea that paying respect is heartfelt, while showing respect could be more of a social duty.
    I'm not so sure about the 'heartfelt'. When I was teaching in Japan, I met many Japanese people who found the whole ancestor worship thing a lot of hogwash but went through with the Obon ritual of paying respect to their ancestors because it's a tradition and also because not to do would be to show disrespect to their parents (and not so much their ancestors).

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