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    will vs would

    Hi,

    I am trying to understand the difference between the two. For example: Let's say I sign the deal. Will you be angry? (here, I believe will is right because there is speculation over the future).

    Otherwise, if we use would in a question, it refers to the immediate present. In other words, will=future, would=present. Is that right?

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    Re: will vs would

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    'Let's say I sign the deal. Will you be angry?' correct.

    When you bring the conditional in, use would:

    'If I were to sign the deal, would you be angry?'

    In both cases, we're talking about the future.

    Rover
    Thanks, Rover, but can would be used even without the conditional? For instance: I am going to ask a few questions. Would that be okay with you? (I am assuming 'would' rather than 'will' is right here because it keeps things in the immediate present).

    Also in statements, we say: I suppose that would be fine. Isn't this a polite way to saying: I suppose that is fine (rather than I suppose that will be fine). Doesn't would be simply replace is rather than act as the past of will?

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    Re: will vs would

    Not a teacher.

    "Would" is conditional.

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    Re: will vs would

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    Not a teacher.

    "Would" is conditional.
    I am not sure that's always the case. 'That is fine' is simple present. 'That would be fine' is also present tense but it is a more formal way of putting it. Would doesn't make it conditional here.

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    Re: will vs would

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. X View Post
    I am not sure that's always the case. 'That is fine' is simple present. 'That would be fine' is also present tense but it is a more formal way of putting it. Would doesn't make it conditional here.
    ********** NOT A TEACHER **********

    Hello, Mr. X.

    (1) I found your question and the posters' answers most

    interesting and helpful.

    (2) May I suggest that we can all agree to call would a modal?

    (Then we need not debate the word conditional.)

    (3) I found something in Mr. L. G. Alexander's highly respected

    Longman English Grammar that might (!) apply to your question:

    We often use would in place of the simple present tense when we

    want to sound less definite.

    Therefore, MAYBE (!!!) we can analyze your examples this way:

    (Two people are speaking) "I am going to bring the contract to your

    office on Friday. That is fine." = definite.

    "I am going to bring the contract to your office on Friday. That would

    be fine." = less definite.

    Thank you

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    Re: will vs would

    "Would" can also be used to talk about past habits, in the same way that we use "used to". "When I lived by the sea, I would swim every morning." For example.

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    Re: will vs would

    Would can be used to add a degree of politeness as well as making something less definite.

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    Re: will vs would

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    "Would" can also be used to talk about past habits, in the same way that we use "used to". "When I lived by the sea, I would swim every morning." For example.
    "Would" really confused me, what I know about it is that it can be used in past habits but can it be used in present and future habits?

    Do these sentences have a difference.
    Past: If peter went to America I would go with him.
    Future: If peter go to America I would go with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atchan View Post
    "Would" really confused me, what I know about it is that it can be used in past habits but can it be used in present and future habits?

    Do these sentences have a difference.
    Past: If peter went to America, I would go with him.
    Future: If peter go to America I would go with him.
    Past: If Peter went to America, I would go with him. This is not past tense, it's conditional. We don't know if Peter will go to America, but if he does, "I" will go with him.
    Which leads us neatly to your next example:
    Future: If Peter goes to America, I will go with him.

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    Re: will vs would

    Atchan, would you check this link please?;

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    It helps me at times I get the similar confusion how to use "would". All different usages of would are here in an orderly fashion.

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