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    Good of or Good of a?

    When someone asks me how good listener/talker/writer I am, what should I say?

    Should I say "I'm good of listener/talker/writer" or should I say "I'm good of A listener/talker/writer"?

    Thanks in advance

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    Re: Good of or Good of a?

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm still learning View Post
    When someone asks me how good listener/talker/writer I am, what should I say?

    Should I say "I'm good of listener/talker/writer" or should I say "I'm good of A listener/talker/writer"?

    Thanks in advance

    I'd say "I'm a good listener" or "I'm good at listening/speaking/writing/reading activities" if you are referring to the four skills

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    Re: Good of or Good of a?

    But I've heard people say "Good of", that's why I asked.

    Is saying "I'm not that good listener" any different from saying "I'm not that good of/good of a listener"?? Don't know.. Just asking..

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    Re: Good of or Good of a?

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm still learning View Post
    But I've heard people say "Good of", that's why I asked.

    Is saying "I'm not that good listener" any different from saying "I'm not that good of/good of a listener"?? Don't know.. Just asking..
    I've also heard it many times. That doesn't make it right. I would say that I've heard it more often from AmE speakers, though I've probably heard some BrE speakers pick it up too.

    "I'm not that good a listener."

    How good a violinist is he?
    He's a pretty good violinist.

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    Re: Good of or Good of a?

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm still learning View Post
    But I've heard people say "Good of", that's why I asked.

    Is saying "I'm not that good listener" any different from saying "I'm not that good of/good of a listener"?? Don't know.. Just asking..
    Thank you for explaining that further. Yes, you will often hear people say "I'm not that good of a ...." I see with a search that there are many examples of this on the internet, even a song with the title "I'm not that good of a person."

    You will hear it only, if I am not incorrect, in the negative form and with the word "that" introducing it. I have never heard "I am not good of..." or "I am good of a..." or "I am that good of a..."

    It seems to be an idiom, so far as I can tell. Is it correct? And is it only heard in the USA? Perhaps others can say.

    By the way, in some circumstances it can be used as a comparison.
    "Are you going to be playing your violin in Carnegie Hall?"
    "Well, thank you for the suggestion, but I'm not that good of a violinist."
    Here the emphasis on "that" shifts the meaning somewhat.

    Thank you for bringing this. I'd never thought of it before.

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    Re: Good of or Good of a?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I've also heard it many times. That doesn't make it right. I would say that I've heard it more often from AmE speakers, though I've probably heard some BrE speakers pick it up too.

    "I'm not that good a listener."

    How good a violinist is he?
    He's a pretty good violinist.
    I think 'good of' here - though I don't use it or defend it - is an extension of the (perfectly acceptable) expression 'much of': 'He's not that much of a listener' -> He's not that good of a listener The move can be explained by the question 'What has "much" got to do with it? What he's not is a good listener.'

    Another usage of 'good of' - perfectly (and unarguably) acceptable is as used here: 'It was good of you to think of me'. (When I say 'perfectly acceptable' I'm talking about now; in such contexts, the norm used to be 'good in', and my grandfather wouldn't have regarded it as acceptable, but as a regrettable modernism).

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