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    Post Are 'where' and 'when' exchangeable?

    Hello friends,

    When the words 'where' and 'when' are used as pronouns to introduce an adjective clause, is there a tendency to use 'where' to replace 'when' where garmmatically 'when' should be used? Something like in everyday English, sometimes we say "there's a lot of people waiting at the bus station"?

    That is, do people say, for example, "a traditional MBA program usually takes two years to complete. It's a time where your efforts and thoughts are very concentrated in one area"?

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    Re: Are 'where' and 'when' exchangeable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Hello friends,

    When the words 'where' and 'when' are used as pronouns to introduce an adjective clause, is there a tendency to use 'where' to replace 'when' where garmmatically 'when' should be used?
    You will see 'where' replacing 'when' sometimes, but that doesn't make it correct. 'where' and 'when' are not interchangeable.


    Something like in everyday English, sometimes we say "there's a lot of people waiting at the bus station"? I hear that much too often for my liking. I think it's due to laziness; it's easier and faster to say "there's" than to say 'there are'.

    That is, do people say, for example, "a traditional MBA program usually takes two years to complete. It's a time where your efforts and thoughts are very concentrated in one area"?
    People say all sort of wrong things.
    In the above sentence, you don't even need 'when'. 'time when' is redundant.

    It's a time your efforts and thoughs...........'.

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    Post Re: Are 'where' and 'when' exchangeable?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    You will see 'where' replacing 'when' sometimes, but that doesn't make it correct. 'where' and 'when' are not interchangeable.
    Dear 2006,

    Is it common, especially among native speckers?
    Why do you think is that? Because it is easier to say 'where' than to say ''when'?
    Can you please give me another example that you often hear it?

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    Re: Are 'where' and 'when' exchangeable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Dear 2006,

    Is it common, especially among native speckers? I don't think it's common among native speakers, because most know better than to say 'time where'.
    Why do you think is that? Because it is easier to say 'where' than to say ''when'? No, it's not easier to say 'where'.
    Can you please give me another example that you often hear it?
    I will give you an example with a mistake very similar to the one in your sentence just above.
    On the news, I often hear sentences like the one below.

    The man the police are looking for he is believed to be somewhere in the XYZ area.'

    That comes from news services that should know better, but I hear it repeatedly!
    You can find bad English almost anywhere.


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    Last edited by 2006; 04-Aug-2010 at 03:54.

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    Re: Are 'where' and 'when' exchangeable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Hello friends,

    When the words 'where' and 'when' are used as pronouns to introduce an adjective clause, is there a tendency to use 'where' to replace 'when' where garmmatically 'when' should be used? Something like in everyday English, sometimes we say "there's a lot of people waiting at the bus station"?

    That is, do people say, for example, "a traditional MBA program usually takes two years to complete. It's a time where your efforts and thoughts are very concentrated in one area"?

    Thank you!
    ********** NOT A TEACHER **********

    Hello.

    (1) I thought of your thread while I was reading a magazine article

    yesterday.

    (2) Here is what a former United States senator was quoted as saying:

    When we scheduled votes, the only day where we could be absolutely

    certain we had all one hundred senators there was Wednesday afternoon.

    I guess that "good" English requires when (or that because it is a

    defining/restrictive clause).

    THANK YOU

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