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    On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Hello,
    which one is the correct sentence:

    a. They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know they were, with a clasp knife.

    b. They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know they were supporters, with a clasp knife.

    c. They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know to be, with a clasp knife.

    Thank you,
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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Quote Originally Posted by Simosito View Post
    Hello,
    which one is the correct sentence:

    a. They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know they were, with a clasp knife.

    b. They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know they were supporters, with a clasp knife.

    c. They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know to be, with a clasp knife.

    Thank you,
    S~
    It's not very clear what you want to say. Can you word it differently?

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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Those who were threatened are now fans but they didn't know they were supporters till they were threatened.

    It's a funny way to say that they were threatened so that they could become fans and now they are fans.

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    #4

    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    I think there are too many theys in your sentence and that makes it unclear. "They" can be both supporters and those who threaten them.

    I think you mean the following. I hope it's correct.

    They did threaten our biggest supporters, who they did not know were supporters, with a clasp knife.

    But it's not the best sentence I've seen in my life...

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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Ok, I shall try to make this thing a little bit more clear.
    people who were not supporters people with knives

    They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know to be [supporters], with a clasp knife.

    So somebody made not-supporters into supporters with knives. These not-supporters acknowledged they were supporters once threatened.

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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Quote Originally Posted by Simosito View Post
    Ok, I shall try to make this thing a little bit more clear.
    people who were not supporters people with knives

    They did threaten our biggest supporters, who did not know to be [supporters], with a clasp knife.

    So somebody made not-supporters into supporters with knives. These not-supporters acknowledged they were supporters once threatened.
    Our biggest supporters didn't know that they were supporters, until they were threatened by people with clasp knives.
    Just a suggestion.

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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Alas it is a translation, so I have to keep it as similar as possible to the Italian text.

    (Hanno minacciato i nostri pił sfegatati fan, che non sapevano di esserlo, con un coltellino a serramanico)

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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Quote Originally Posted by Simosito View Post
    Alas it is a translation, so I have to keep it as similar as possible to the Italian text.

    (Hanno minacciato i nostri pił sfegatati fan, che non sapevano di esserlo, con un coltellino a serramanico)
    Sorry, I don't fully understand Italian. Perhaps Raymott may be able to help, I believe he is of Italian origin.

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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    Quote Originally Posted by Simosito View Post
    Alas it is a translation, so I have to keep it as similar as possible to the Italian text.

    (Hanno minacciato i nostri pił sfegatati fan, che non sapevano di esserlo, con un coltellino a serramanico)
    I speak a bit of Italian but I'm still not sure what you mean. I understand that "che" refers to "i fan". Does "non sapevano" refer to "i fan" too? Didn't the fans know they were fans themselves?

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    Re: On repeating the object in a subordinate

    YES!

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