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  1. 羡鱼-Xianyu's Avatar

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    will be not VS. will not be

    The man who, in old age, can see his life in this way, will not suffer from the fear of death, since the things he cares for will continue. And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will be not unwelcome.

    Hi, everybody!
    Why is the part in blod not 'will not be'? To me the latter sounds more nature. Could you tell me if there are any differences between them?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    Quote Originally Posted by 羡鱼-Xianyu View Post
    The man who, in old age, can see his life in this way, will not suffer from the fear of death, since the things he cares for will continue. And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will be not unwelcome.

    Hi, everybody!
    Why is the part in blod not 'will not be'? To me the latter sounds more natural. Could you tell me if there are any differences between them?

    Thanks in advance!
    There's no significant difference in meaning.

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    Why is the part in blod not 'will not be'? To me the latter sounds more natural. Could you tell me if there are any differences between them?

    Xianyu: why is not the part in "red", will not be unwelcome
    will be not unwelcome
    won't be unwelcome

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    Quote Originally Posted by masuas View Post
    Xianyu: why is not the part in "red", will not be unwelcome
    No, it's not the part in "red". It's the part in red.
    Or, as 羡鱼-Xianyu meant to say, the part in bold.
    There's no reason to quote 'red' in that phrase.

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    I was pointing out "red" to Xianyu, because I thought he/she meant "blood" referring
    to the word in red. I just repeated what he/she had said.
    But that's okay, the main thing was to show the different manners of the sentence in question. Thanks anyway.

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will be not unwelcome.

    I would read: not negates unwelcome, which is, I believe, what you have been saying. The not un.. a double negation = positive 'welcome'.

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    What do you guys think of:And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will be not unwelcome.
    Unwelcome will not be?

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    Si quieres decir: 'And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest unwelcome.will not be.', pues nada. Except maybe in a poem!

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedroski View Post
    And if, with the decay of vitality, weariness increases, the thought of rest will be not unwelcome.

    I would read: not negates unwelcome, which is, I believe, what you have been saying. The not un.. a double negation = positive 'welcome'.
    This might work in this case, but "not un-X" doesn't always mean "X".
    "I'm not unhappy" doesn't necessarily mean "I'm happy".
    "She had a face like a chimp, but she was not entirely unattractive." (OK, maybe I cheated by placing the adverb there.)

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    Re: will be not VS. will not be

    You're right there. But in the case of 'not unwelcome'? I suppose we could write tolerated, but I would go for welcome.

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