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    Hi,
    I am a student at UABC( university of Baja California). I studied most of my school life in the U.S., so I consider I have a good understanting about english grammar. Just recently, in one of my classes, I got into an argument with a classmate about the correct usage of For. She insisted on trying to write the following phrase "she bought for herself a blouse". Well, I tryed to correct her but she would not acept that what I said was right. All my life I've know it to be incorrect to say it this way. Sure you can say She bought a blouse for herself or she bought herself a blouse , but not she bought for herseft , or can you?. Please tell me if I'm wrong or right because this is confusing me.

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    Re: correct use of for

    You can say either, and the version you prefer is much the more common. Is the friend a native speaker?

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    no she's not. She learned english here in Mexico. She knows how to speak it quite well, but I wouldn't say it's more than 85%.

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    I agree with BobK.

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    Re: correct use of for

    Quote Originally Posted by marquissun View Post
    no she's not. She learned english here in Mexico. She knows how to speak it quite well, but I wouldn't say it's more than 85%.
    Aha! Perhaps she's influenced by comprarse.

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    Re: correct use of for

    Perhaps, thanks for clearing my doubts!!!

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    Re: correct use of for

    With shopping, anything goes . . .


    Oh, your sister went shopping! What did she buy?

    She bought the baby a blanket and a hat for her mother. Then she bought for herself a blouse.

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    Re: correct use of for

    I agree it's not incorrect, but I don't find it natural at all.

    Susie gave one example where it works without sounding awful, but even then, I'd say "a blouse for herself."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: correct use of for

    Quote Originally Posted by marquissun View Post
    Hi,
    I am a student at UABC( university of Baja California). I studied most of my school life in the U.S., so I consider I have a good understanting about english grammar. Just recently, in one of my classes, I got into an argument with a classmate about the correct usage of For. She insisted on trying to write the following phrase "she bought for herself a blouse". Well, I tryed to correct her but she would not acept that what I said was right. All my life I've know it to be incorrect to say it this way. Sure you can say She bought a blouse for herself or she bought herself a blouse , but not she bought for herseft , or can you?. Please tell me if I'm wrong or right because this is confusing me.

    Sincearcely,
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    (1) I agree with the other posters that the most natural and most usual

    would be "She bought a blouse for herself."

    (2) I think, however, that some experts say that a sentence such as

    "She bought for herself a blouse" is not "bad" English and that it shows

    the person who wrote it (since that order sounds "unnatural" in ordinary

    speech) was thinking ahead and deliberately put "for herself" in the

    middle of the sentence to emphasize those words. That position certainly

    did get our attention, didn't it!!

    (3) Couldn't we also say:

    For herself, she bought a sweater. (This order might suggest how

    selfish or unselfish she was -- depending on what came before that

    sentence.)

    (4) I think that you are correct in reminding your classmate that

    her word order is definitely not the usual one. That is, it is not just a

    neutral statement of the facts. If she insists on speaking like that, she

    must be prepared for raised eyebrows.

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    Re: correct use of for

    Could I say "she bought to herself a blouse" ?

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