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    #1

    White knuckle ride

    Hello friends,
    There is a song called "White Knuckle Ride".
    (It's from Jamiroquai )

    However, shouldn't it be "White-Knuckle Ride"?
    My dictionary tells me that knuckle is something like a finger bone.
    So it would be a white finger bone ride, which doesn't make any sense.
    White-knuckle means something like exciting, according to my dictionary.
    What do you think?

    By the way, the video:
    YouTube - Jamiroquai - White Knuckle Ride

    P.S. Maybe it's a BrE exception!?

    Cheers!

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    Re: White knuckle ride

    Hi Nightmare,

    You are probably right that it should be hyphenated but this is pop music and musicians are too cool to worry about stuff like punctuation. Your comment is very German by the way, I love it!

    Here are some songs with something worse than bad punctuation - bad grammar!

    (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones
    A Bitch Iz A Bitch - N.W.A.
    Ain't No Good Life - Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Ain't No Other Man - Christina Aguilera
    Ain't No Sunshine - Bill Withers
    Ain't No Way To Treat A Lady - Helen Reddy
    Ain't No Woman (Like The One I've Got) - The Four Tops
    Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing - Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell
    Ain't That A Shame - Fats Domino
    Coz I Love You - Slade
    Do You Know Where You're Going To? - Diana Ross
    Don't Ask Me No Questions - Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Don't Let's Be Beastly To The Germans - Noėl Coward
    Hev Yew Gotta Loight, Boy? - The Singing Postman
    I Like the Way She Do It - G-Unit
    I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman - Britney Spears
    It Don't Matter To Me - Bread
    It's Gonna Go Away - KoRn
    Lay Down Sally - Eric Clapton
    Me And My Shadow - Ted Lewis
    My Give A Damn's Busted - Jo Dee Messina
    Nuthin' But A G Thang - Dr. Dre
    She Don't Have to Know - John Legend
    The Way I Are - Timbaland
    Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight - Spinal Tap
    Where It's At - Beck
    Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad - Derek and the Dominos
    You Ain't Got Nuthin - Lil Wayne
    You Enjoy Myself - Phish
    You Haven't Done Nothin' - Stevie Wonder

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    #3

    Re: White knuckle ride

    Thank you, but what do you mean by "very German"?
    The translation?

    Cheers!


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    Re: White knuckle ride

    I like the part when you mentioned that they are way to cool to worry about grammar.

    I do agree with what you had said as some pop songs' lyrics are not helping young children be better in their grammar and conventions.

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    Re: White knuckle ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Thank you, but what do you mean by "very German"?
    The translation?

    Cheers!
    No, your English is flawless as far as I can tell. I just thought it was charmingly German to notice a punctuation problem in a pop song title. It reminded me a bit of this German stand-up comdedian (he starts at 1:00)

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    #6

    Re: White knuckle ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello friends,
    There is a song called "White Knuckle Ride".
    (It's from Jamiroquai )

    However, shouldn't it be "White-Knuckle Ride"?
    My dictionary tells me that knuckle is something like a finger bone.
    So it would be a white finger bone ride, which doesn't make any sense.
    White-knuckle means something like exciting, according to my dictionary.
    What do you think?

    ...
    A knuckle is the joint between finger bones, often used to mean the joint itself (the things that stick out when you make a fist). So you're right (esp. about the hyphen )

    b

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    #7

    Re: White knuckle ride

    You are correct in that "white-knuckle" should properly be hyphenated. That term has been in use long before Jamiroquai was even born. It refers to being a passenger in a car or airplane or amusement park ride or other vehicle that is so fast and frightening that you grasp onto the arm rest or safety bar so tightly that your knuckles turn white due to lack of blood circulation.

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    Re: White knuckle ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouisch View Post
    You are correct in that "white-knuckle" should properly be hyphenated. That term has been in use long before Jamiroquai was even born. It refers to being a passenger in a car or airplane or amusement park ride or other vehicle that is so fast and frightening that you grasp onto the arm rest or safety bar so tightly that your knuckles turn white due to lack of blood circulation.
    Good explanation. I don't think I was very clear in my previous posts. Yes, it should be hyphenated as a matter of style in most situations. But I was serious when I said musicians are too cool to worry about punctuation. You can call a song whatever you like. It is part of artistic license.

    There is no artistic licensing centre, so people like Jay Kay (the name of the singer - Jamiroquai is the name of the band) and his band-mates even get to use artistic license, even though using the word "art" for the product of their endeavors seems to stretch the term to the point where it is looser than a bucket of fishing worms. Did they deliberately leave out the hyphen? I seriously doubt hyphenation is a topic which has ever troubled the members of Jamiroquai.

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