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    " A Berlin native who moved to Amsterdam.'' Means that a person was born in Berlin but took up residence in Amsterdam at some point in the past?

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    Re: native

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    How about 'a native of Berlin'? So 'A native of Berlin moved to Amsterdam'.

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    Re: native

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    Not a teacher

    How about 'a native of Berlin'?
    It might an option. How about people saying "He's a Dutch national."?

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    Re: native

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    It might an option. How about people saying "He's a Dutch national."?
    "Dutch national" is fine, if he is now a Dutch citizen.

    "A Berlin native who moved to Amsterdam" is a perfectly clear phrase. However, I would not be certain that he was born in Berlin, just that he had lived in Berlin from a young age. How young? It depends.

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    Re: native

    "Native" to you doesn't mean "born in."?

    I moved to New York before my first birthday, but I consider myself a native Californian (the state of my birth) and someone who grew up in New York.

    If I read "native of Berlin" or "Berlin native" I would assume he was born there.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: native

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    "Native" to you doesn't mean "born in."?

    I moved to New York before my first birthday, but I consider myself a native Californian (the state of my birth) and someone who grew up in New York.

    If I read "native of Berlin" or "Berlin native" I would assume he was born there.
    Yeah, when I wrote that I suspected it was a bit odd. It does go against the strict definition but I still suspect some people might use "native" to mean "comes from" more loosely in some situations. I mean, if it turned out he was born in Wolfsburg and moved to Berlin when he one, then lived all his life there, someone might say, "Oh Fritz is a Berlin native, he knows where to buy the best sausages there."

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