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    #1

    he unlikely or it unlikely

    1)"He's unlikely to come at 5 o'clock."

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    2)"It's unlikely that he comes at 5 o'clock."

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    3)"It's unlikely that he come at 5 o'clock."

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    4)"It's unlikely that he would come at 5 o'clock."
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    Re: he unlikely or it unlikely

    I have a problem related to this. Could it be "it's unlikely that he come"?

    I know that we can use the subjunctive when the deontic modality is present, as in:

    It's required that he come.

    Is it the same with the epistemic modality, like this in the OP's sentence?

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    Re: he unlikely or it unlikely

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    I have a problem related to this. Could it be "it's unlikely that he come"?

    I know that we can use the subjunctive when the deontic modality is present, as in:

    It's required that he come.

    Is it the same with the epistemic modality, like this in the OP's sentence?
    Initially I srewed up in the third one. It should be "that he come". I've added number 4.

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    Re: he unlikely or it unlikely

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Initially I srewed up in the third one. It should be "that he come". I've added number 4.
    I'd appreciate further comments on this one.

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    Re: he unlikely or it unlikely

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    1)"He's unlikely to come at 5 o'clock."

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    2)"It's unlikely that he comes at 5 o'clock."

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    3)"It's unlikely that he come at 5 o'clock."

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    4)"It's unlikely that he would come at 5 o'clock."
    I like N1 best and would add another possibility:

    "It's unlikely that he'll come at 5 o'clock."

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    Re: he unlikely or it unlikely

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    I have a problem related to this. Could it be "it's unlikely that he come"?

    I know that we can use the subjunctive when the deontic modality is present, as in:

    It's required that he come.

    Is it the same with the epistemic modality, like this in the OP's sentence?
    My personal feeling is that the subjunctive in a case like this is not correct - it's rare enough anyway, even in examples such as yours in BrE, except in the most formal speech and writing. I'll see if I can find a writer who says it is possible and let you know. (Though even if I can I would never use it myself, and I would never pass this info on to a student.)

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    Re: he unlikely or it unlikely

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    My personal feeling is that the subjunctive in a case like this is not correct - it's rare enough anyway, even in examples such as yours in BrE, except in the most formal speech and writing. I'll see if I can find a writer who says it is possible and let you know. (Though even if I can I would never use it myself, and I would never pass this info on to a student.)
    I would, and do, use "It's important that he should come".

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    Re: he unlikely or it unlikely

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    I would, and do, use "It's important that he should come".
    So do I, but I don't consider that to be a subjunctive form. Do you?

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