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    Me or That I After a Verb

    Hi there, can anyone help an out of her depth TESL teacher:-
    A common mistake made by my Spanish students is, for example:-
    He doesn’t want that I go out. or Do you want that I read this?
    I know this comes from a direct translation from Spanish and that the sentences should be:-
    He doesn’t want me to go out. or Do you want me to read this?
    Now, this I can explain. However, when we thought of some other sentences, such as:-
    He doesn’t hate me wanting to go to Africa.
    He doesn’t hate that I want to go to Africa.
    He doesn’t mind me wanting to live here.
    He doesn’t mind that I want to live here.
    I suppose what I’m trying to understand is possibly, are there particular verbs which are followed by the object pronoun and some other verbs which can be followed by both the object pronoun or that as a conjunction followed by a subject pronoun.
    I hope this makes sense to someone.
    Any help would be much appreciated.

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    Re: Me or That I After a Verb

    Quote Originally Posted by Anne59 View Post
    Hi there, can anyone help an out of her depth TESL teacher:-
    A common mistake made by my Spanish students is, for example:-
    He doesn’t want that I go out. or Do you want that I read this?
    I know this comes from a direct translation from Spanish and that the sentences should be:-
    He doesn’t want me to go out. or Do you want me to read this?
    Now, this I can explain. However, when we thought of some other sentences, such as:-
    He doesn’t hate me wanting to go to Africa.
    He doesn’t hate that I want to go to Africa.
    He doesn’t mind me wanting to live here.
    He doesn’t mind that I want to live here.
    I suppose what I’m trying to understand is possibly, are there particular verbs which are followed by the object pronoun and some other verbs which can be followed by both the object pronoun or that as a conjunction followed by a subject pronoun.
    I hope this makes sense to someone.
    Any help would be much appreciated.
    He doesn’t want that I should go out. or Do you want that I should read this?
    Both of the above are correct but dated English. The problem is, I think, that we just don't speak like that any more.

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    Re: Me or That I After a Verb

    Thanks for your help and could you tell me how you decide if the verb after the object pronoun is in the gerund or infinitive?

    In sentence 1 and 2 want couldn't be in the gerund but in 3 and 4 both are possible.

    1.He doesn't mind me wanting to go to Africa.
    2.He doesn't mind me wanting to live here.

    3.He doesn't want me going out.
    4.He doesn't want me to go out.

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    Re: Me or That I After a Verb

    Quote Originally Posted by Anne59 View Post
    Thanks for your help and could you tell me how you decide if the verb after the object pronoun is in the gerund or infinitive?

    In sentence 1 and 2 want couldn't be in the gerund but in 3 and 4 both are possible.

    1.He doesn't mind my wanting to go to Africa.
    2.He doesn't mind my wanting to live here.

    3.He doesn't want me going out.
    4.He doesn't want me to go out.
    In 1 and 2 "wanting" is OK if you change "me" to "my".
    I don't much like #3.

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