CELTA- Initial qualification

[Tullia]

Speaking as someone who has just finished her first week of a CELTA course today, perhaps my perspective might be interesting?

I've been a private tutor of English (to native speakers, mostly children working for GCSEs) for ten years. I probably am finding the course easier than those with zero teaching experience, certainly, but I wouldn't say I am finding it easy, and I don't know anyone who is. Of course it's only natural that people with some previous experience at something may find training in it easier than those who don't. I dare say people with teaching experience would find an online course easier than those without it too.

Certainly, they are trying to fit a lot in to the 120 hours, but they were very clear about the fact it would be a demanding and intensive course before I signed up for it.

I don't think that it is exclusively suited to people with experience, though. The way the course is taught, and the materials provided, so far seem to really cover every aspect from the most basic upwards.

Surely it's not about what level people have when they go into the course, but what level they have when they come out of it? As long as CELTA doesn't pass people not of an acceptable standard by the end, and as long as it gives everyone signing up and paying their money over to them the required level of support and guidance so that the only thing stopping people passing becomes their own talent (because no matter how good the teaching, sometimes people just aren't suited to something) or their own commitment and willingness to work, then I don't see the issue.

Yes, CELTA seems *hard*. What's so wrong with that? Why should courses and qualifications be easy?

It seems to me another symptom of all I find worst about modern culture that people are demanding everything be "easy" and that everyone should be able to achieve everything. Not everyone can or should be a teacher - maybe I'll get to the end of the course and not be good enough, maybe I'll get to the end of the course and be good enough. But I don't think I shouldn't have to work at it!


[Oh and I chose CELTA after a fair amount of research at looking what qualifications were asked of NQTs. I don't remember seeing a single job ad that said online qualifications were acceptable; it was all a combination of experience/CELTA or Trinity Cert. I wouldn't have gone near an online course if they paid me, because it's the contact time with students offered by the face-to-face courses that I personally believe will be most valuable for me.]

[Esredux]

I wonder what are the most crucial issues to bear in mind while choosing the 'right' CELTA centre.
After days of google search, I'd appreciate any additional information like personal experience, tips or whatever.
The UK is the country I am particularly interested in, yet it's not final.

[mattl]

Esgaleth, it could be difficult to get past the marketing blurb to find the right CELTA centre. Word of mouth would be a good way of finding one, or a recognised name like International House might be a safe bet.

[Esredux]

Mattl,
Word of mouth /or mouse/ is what I am looking for. I wish I could do it at IH but I absolutely can't make their dates. And, to be honest, I'd rather be elsewhere but not in London during the Olympic Games.
Thanks for your time anyway.

[Tdol]

They are, in theory, equal. A course with a recognised name may catch people's eye on a CV, but it is the qualification that matters as it is the one that opens doors. I wouldn't worry too much about not doing it at IH, and not being in London during the Olympics makes a lot of sense to me.

[Roqaia]

hello everyone

I intend to do my CELTA in the near future.

Can you provide me with the tasks and the assignments that you have done in the course?
So I would have a much clear idea of things ahead!


I do NOT want to fail!
I am really afraid


thank you in advance

[Tdol]

Most people pass- they should only give places to people who have a decent chance of passing.

Familiarise yourself with the course here: http://www.cambridgeenglish.org/exam...cations/celta/

And don't ask for people's assignments.

[Roqaia]

Most people pass- they should only give places to people who have a decent chance of passing.

Familiarise yourself with the course here: http://www.cambridgeenglish.org/exam...cations/celta/

And don't ask for people's assignments.

thank you for your replay dear

hhh, am not asking for people's assignments, all what I ask for is an idea of the sort of such assignments!


anyway,
I dont know but it seems that the link is not working!

[Tdol]

I've just tested the link and it's working. Here's the CELTA brochure (pdf): http://www.cambridgeenglish.org/Imag...chure-2013.pdf

[Hunia]

I am highly skeptical of CELTA for various reasons. As a former President of an international college network, I would never employ and never have employed any native ESl teacher with a CELTA but without a relevant degree in a language-related subject area. I have seen many native CELTA graduates making errors/mistakes in their written English like confusing "its" and "it's". They are simply lacking essential grammar knowledge of their native language.

It's impossible to do a practical teaching component online, so no they won't. The six hours observed teaching is what makes a CELTA and other certificates respected (as well as a legal requirement for teachers in countries like the one I'm in). To me, an online teaching course makes about as much sense as an online driving course. Without actually doing it, there's a severe limit to what you can learn. Not only that, but I'd question how useful a lot of the theory on the CELTA course would be outside of the context of regular teaching with feedback. Teaching is a practical profession, so without a practical component, the CELTA would be pretty pointless.


If people didn't think homeopathy was effective, it wouldn't exist either. The popularity of something isn't evidence of its effectiveness. Note, I'm not claiming your courses have nothing to offer, just that this isn't a particularly good argument for their effectiveness.

But just on the employer attitude thing, I've only ever seen two types of advert for an entry-level ELT position. The first is degree plus CELTA or equivalent. The second is degree plus nothing. So where do online courses fit into all this?