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Are the following sentences acceptable?

(1) Therefore, he basked on the sunny beach to take a sunbath.
(2) About two hours later, the sun was high up in the sky and he was awoken by the bright sun.
 

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Are the following sentences acceptable?

(1) Therefore, he basked on the sunny beach[STRIKE] to take a sunbath[/STRIKE].
(2) About two hours later, the sun was high up in the sky and he was awoken by the bright sun.

The second part of your first sentence is redundant.
 

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Are the following sentences acceptable?

(1) Therefore, he basked on the sunny beach to take a sunbath.
(2) About two hours later, the sun was high up in the sky and he was awoken by the bright sun.
I agree with Barb_D on the first sentence and was about to disagree on the second, but I decided to look it up. Awoken looked very strange to me and I would have used awakened. It seems that we´re both correct.
 

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:) I went through the same process!
 

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I agree with Barb_D on the first sentence and was about to disagree on the second, but I decided to look it up. Awoken looked very strange to me and I would have used awakened. It seems that we´re both correct.

awake awoke awoken
 
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awake awoke awoken
Are you asserting that "awaken" is wrong?

Why do you continually come along towards the end of a thread and post incorrect information giving the impression that you know better? Have you even followed the argument in the thread?
 

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Actually, to my surprise, my dictionary (Merriam Webster) listed:
awake
awoke or awaked (! Can you imagine "I awaked at 6 am yesterday"?)
awoken or awaked -- and does not list "awakened" which is what sounds right to me
 

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2. About two hours later, the sun was high up in the sky and he was awoken by the bright sun.
Can I say this sentence this way
About two hours later he was awoken by the bright high-up sun.(Sounds much better to me)

Dear teacher Barb, I have a new surprise for you. Next time you open this-forum-posting window you'll notice that the software doesn't recognise the word awoken in the form "awaked" even though my grammar book say it is a valid form as your had told the same to you. The squirm red line appear under the word "awaked" in the window.
 

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Actually, to my surprise, my dictionary (Merriam Webster) listed:
awake
awoke or awaked (! Can you imagine "I awaked at 6 am yesterday"?)
awoken or awaked -- and does not list "awakened" which is what sounds right to me
I couldn´t agree more about what sounds right. So I just did a quick search and found awakened in every dictionary I checked: Macmillan, Merriam-Webster´s Online, Cambridge Advanced Learner`s and Webster´s New World College Dictionary. Seems our instincts were right.:)
 

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It seems that wake, waken, awake, and awaken are all base verbs.

Macquaries (Aus) Dictionary says:

wake / woke or waked(US) / woken or waken(US)
waken / waken or wakened, woken
awake / awoke or awaked(US) / awoken or awaken (US)
awaken / awaken or awakened / awoken

And it seems not to matter whether it's used transitively or intransitively.
Personally, I almost invariably use the phrasal verb: wake up / woke up / woken up
 

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I couldn´t agree more about what sounds right. So I just did a quick search and found awakened in every dictionary I checked: Macmillan, Merriam-Webster´s Online, Cambridge Advanced Learner`s and Webster´s New World College Dictionary. Seems our instincts were right.:)

Dear Teacher riquecohen,

I'd like to note that dictionaries are made to serve learners' (my) needs to find every word in them so as to know what the word means if the word was heard or read from a book.

"Thou" can be looked up in the dictionary as well.;-)

Please check out are forms "awaked" and "awakened' in the lists of irregular verbs in the newest grammar books published by well known publishers such as Cambridge University Press. (You mentioned their dictionary)
 

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No one is saying the others are not listed, e2e4.

We're saying we are surprised to find them listed because it's not what we use or what we expected to find. That is not the same as saying "the others are wrong."
 
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