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    to do things in

    Planning a project is just a matter of working out the right order to do things in. (page 824, Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
    What does the above sentence mean?

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    Re: to do things in

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    Planning a project is just a matter of working out the right order to do things in. (page 824, Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
    What does the above sentence mean?
    "...the right order in which to do things" Does that make it clearer for you? It makes it clearer for me, I think the original is hopelessly clumsy.

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    Re: to do things in

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    "...the right order in which to do things" Does that make it clearer for you? It makes it clearer for me, I think the original is hopelessly clumsy.
    As somebody educated many years ago to speak and write in a more formal manner, I would probably write the words bhaisahab suggested. However, I hear examples such as sitifan's eevry day. I suspect I probably utter them.

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    Re: to do things in

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    As somebody educated many years ago to speak and write in a more formal manner, I would probably write the words bhaisahab suggested. However, I hear examples such as sitifan's eevry day. I suspect I probably utter them.
    Do you not find it clumsy?

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    Re: to do things in

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Do you not find it clumsy?
    Not really. I have always been with Churchill on hyper-correct avoidance of prepositions at the end of a sentence: This is the kind of language up with which I will not put appears to me to be far clumsier than: This is the kind of language I will not put up with.

    So, sitifan's original example is fine for me, except perhaps in more formal writing.

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    Re: to do things in

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    Not really. I have always been with Churchill on hyper-correct avoidance of prepositions at the end of a sentence: This is the kind of language up with which I will not put appears to me to be far clumsier than: This is the kind of language I will not put up with.

    So, sitifan's original example is fine for me, except perhaps in more formal writing.
    Yes, I agree that Churchill's example is ridiculous but I don't think the following is in the same league.
    Planning a project is just a matter of working out the right order to do things in.
    Planning a project is just a matter of working out the right order in which to do things.

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    Re: to do things in

    I think we'll have to agree to differ on this one.

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