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    No religion, too?

    Dick Cavett: Here he is, Forrest Gump. Right here. Mr. Gump, have a seat. Forrest Gump, John Lennon.John Lennon: Welcome home.Dick Cavett: You had quite a trip. Can you, uh, tell us, uh, what was China like?Forrest Gump: Well, in the land of China, people hardly got nothing at all.John Lennon: No possessions?Forrest Gump: And in China they never go to church.John Lennon: No religion, too?
    Why not say "No religion, either"?

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    Re: No religion, too?

    "too" meaning "also": no possessions and also no religion?

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    Re: No religion, too?

    Actually, 'no religion (,) either' is what we'd expect from native speakers. Lennon uses 'too' here, because it's what he used in his song 'Imagine', because of the rhyme:

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...

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    Re: No religion, too?

    Since John Lennon is English, not American, why did John Lennon say "Welcome home" to Forrest Gump?

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    #5

    Re: No religion, too?

    That's just what you say to someone when they have been away from their home(land) for a long time.

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    Re: No religion, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    Actually, 'no religion (,) either' is what we'd expect from native speakers. Lennon uses 'too' here, because it's what he used in his song 'Imagine', because of the rhyme:

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    How big a mistake is it to use "too" this way in everyday speech?

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    Re: No religion, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    How big a mistake is it to use "too" this way in everyday speech?
    Quite big IMO.

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    Re: No religion, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    How big a mistake is it to use "too" this way in everyday speech?
    It sounds wrong to me, but my teaching background probably makes me over-sensitive to things like this.

    I have to admit that, until I read the original question, I had not noticed the 'mistake' in Lennon's song, so it is possible that I may not notice it in conversation either (I almost wrote too there!)

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    Re: No religion, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Quite big IMO.
    The adverb of degree "quite" is ambiguous to me. It seems to have different meanings in British English and American English.

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    Re: No religion, too?

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    The adverb of degree "quite" is ambiguous to me. It seems to have different meanings in British English and American English.
    Yes,
    quite - definition of quite by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    but context usually makes the intended meaning clear.

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