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    How to express the idea? Which is acceptable?


    (1) I saw a film on Animal Channel about a group of Greenpeace that fought to obstruct Japanese whalership whaling.

    (2) The Japanese whalers, nominally do scientific research on whales, hunt and kill (battu) whales in antarctic ocean.

    (3) The Japanese whalers palmed off scientific research inferior to hunt and kill whales in antarctic ocean.

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    Re: sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by contiluo View Post
    How to express the idea? Which is acceptable?


    (1) I saw a film on Animal Channel about a group of Greenpeace that fought to obstruct Japanese whalership whaling.

    (2) The Japanese whalers, nominally do scientific research on whales, hunt and kill (battu) whales in antarctic ocean.

    (3) The Japanese whalers palmed off scientific research inferior to hunt and kill whales in antarctic ocean.
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    Contiluo,


    (1) Your No. 1 sentence is quite good. May I just revise it a bit:

    I saw a film on the Animal Channel about the group Greenpeace,

    which fights to obstruct whalership whaling.

    (a) It might be more diplomatic NOT to mention the nationality of the

    whalers. This is a most sensitive issue. Everyone already knows their

    nationality.

    (2) I am not too sure about the meaning of No. 2. Perhaps it means:

    The whalers claim that scientific research is involved in the hunting and

    killing of whales in the Antarctic Ocean.

    (3) I am not sure about No. 3, so I had better not guess.

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    Re: sentence

    I'd add a specific point that TP's rewrite solves by changing the grammar. As it stands (grammatically) 'a group of Greenpeace' isn't complete. It should be 'a group of Greenpeace protesters/activists/demonstrators...

    About 3, I think it means 'The Japanese whalers dismissed scientific research based on the effect of whaling on northern whale populations as not relating to the hunting and killing of whales in the Antarctic.' The phrase 'palm off' doesn't work (I think you're thinking of the verb 'hand off' - which in Br Eng means 'deflect an aggressor using the open hand' (as in rugby). Confusingly (for me) it seems to be used in Am E to mean 'hand over'. (This made for some serious misunderstandings when a UK engineering group was handing over a project to an American group - who seemed not to want it! ). When you 'palm someone off' you give them an inferior substitute and hope they won't notice, or give them an implausible excuse: 'Answer the question! You can't palm me off with the same old nonsense.'

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