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    Some and any

    Hello guys,
    I've been having some problems with some and any for time.
    In school I learned a clear rule:
    Use some when the sentence is a positive statement or a question whose result should be yes.
    I have some friends.
    Can I have some coffee, please?


    Okay, but there are some questionable sentences:
    Do you know someone?
    Do you know anyone?
    I would use someone here because anyone reminds me of everyone.

    You meet a guy and ask him whether his friends are coming:
    Is someone else coming now?
    Is anyone else coming now?
    I would use someone, but I don't know why.
    It simply sounds better to me.


    I heard this question on a TV show:
    But what if he is with someone else?
    He did not say, "
    But what if he is with anyone else?"

    Most times when I read or hear the word any, it reminds me of every.
    Like "I'm always there for you. Any time, any place!"

    I need some advice, please!

    P.S: I believe I will write some more examples later!

    Cheers!

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    Re: Some and any

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    I have some friends.
    Can I have some coffee, please?
    That usage is correct, though some might say may would be better than can; may because the speaker is asking permission. Strictly speaking, can would mean "Am I physically able to have some coffee?"
    Okay, but there are some questionable sentences:
    Do you know someone?
    Do you know anyone?
    I would use someone here because anyone reminds me of everyone.
    I had never thought of that, but yes. And the circumstances would dictate which to use.

    Someone would be used when referring to a particular person:

    "I paid $15,000 for that car."
    "No! You could have bought it for half that!"
    "How? Do you know someone?" (who would have sold such a car for half that?)

    Anyone is more general.

    "I climbed to the top of the mountain and met a hermit who hadn't spoken to another soul for 20 years. So I asked him, 'Do you know anyone?' "
    You meet a guy and ask him whether his friends are coming:
    Is someone else coming now?
    Is anyone else coming now?
    I would use anyone, but I don't know why.
    It simply sounds better to me.


    Again it would depend on the circumstances. If you expect only one more person to arrive, someone would be better. If you expect more than one to arrive, anyone would be better.

    "It was awful," Richard said. "I had a date with her for lunch, but Jack, Henry, Fred and Bob turned up, too. So I asked her, 'Is anyone else coming now?' "

    You'd have a better idea exactly how Richard felt, because he used anyone, meaning he implied there would be no restriction on the number of others who might arrive.

    I heard this question on a TV show:
    But what if he is with someone else?
    He did not say, "
    But what if he is with anyone else?"
    Someone else was used likely because the circumstance might mean more of a personal affront or be more intimidating to the speaker, someone being more particular than anyone.
    Most times when I read or hear the word any, it reminds me of every.
    Like "I'm always there for you. Any time, any place!"
    Correct!
    Every time, every place would be gramatically correct but not colloquial.

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    Re: Some and any

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Hello guys,
    I've been having some problems with some and any for time.
    In school I learned a clear rule:
    Use some when the sentence is a positive statement or a question whose result should be yes.
    I have some friends.
    Can I have some coffee, please?
    Yes, you are absolutely correct about use of ‘Some’. But please remember both Some and Any are quantifiers and Any is used when asking questions, in negative sentence and when a sentence is grammatically positive, but the meaning of the sentence is negative, as:
    My brother never does any thing good.


    Okay, but there are some questionable sentences:
    Do you know someone?
    Do you know anyone?
    I would use someone here because anyone reminds me of everyone.

    You can use both. i think when you use the word "someone" you're likely to expect the answer to be "yes" and when you're really not sure, you use "anyone".
    for example, if you say "Is someone there?", it implies that you somehow know / think someone is there, and if you say "Is anyone there?", it's more like you're really not sure if anyone is there.

    You meet a guy and ask him whether his friends are coming:
    Is someone else coming now?
    Is anyone else coming now?
    I would use someone, but I don't know why.
    It simply sounds better to me.
    This is a difficult point to clarify. There is basically no difference and most of times they are interchangeable, so use what "sounds" the best. But, here I think both are possible. "Someone" implies that the noun in question-1, is finite; is used when there are fewer possibilities; and is selective. "Anyone" in question 2 implied that there is a larger set of possibilities than with "someone"; it is not selective.

    I heard this question on a TV show:
    But what if he is with someone else?
    He did not say, "
    But what if he is with anyone else?"
    It is common for "someone" to be used in the affirmative and sometimes when asking a question with the expectation of a finite and positive response.


    Most times when I read or hear the word any, it reminds me of every.
    Like "I'm always there for you. Any time, any place!"

    I need some advice, please!

    P.S: I believe I will write some more examples later!

    Cheers!
    Skp

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